Civil discourse with the left is futile.
Ever try to discuss anything with a junkyard dog who has rabies? You don’t attempt a reasoned conversation, you shoot it.
These people are not capable of an intelligent, two-way discussion. They are indoctrinated fools that will be “thrown away” as soon as they don’t serve a purpose any longer. But history is not something they know, either. Sad what they’ve become. Can’t fix stupid or evil…
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