Let’s Go Down Standing Up

“What would you do if you knew you couldn’t fail?”

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8 Responses to Let’s Go Down Standing Up

  1. LT says:

    “What would you do if you knew you couldn’t fail?”

    Kill them all.
    Every
    Last
    One

    This is the only honest answer remaining. Anything less is prevarication and hubris, or simple defeatism. Our tolerance has been abused to the point of justifying such a “Total Response”. Fully justifying it.

    Any questions?

    • Hans says:

      Yes. I have a couple of questions about your “honest answer” …

      1. How do you (*) reconcile your blood-lust with the fact that, about 70 years ago, one small brown man (**) was able to extract control of an entire nation from the British Empire … without force of arms or threat thereof ?

      2. Why do you believe the long-term outcome from your proposal would be any different, under men so inclined, than our present circumstances ?

      All I hear is a desire (*) to lash out using the same “systemic pattern of tyrannical thought” that created the current problem.

      —-- Footnotes —--

      (*) the chorus of actors responding to the earlier post “How Can We Win When We Can’t Even Decide How To Begin?” … not necessarily you, personally, but it applies.

      (**) If you don’t remember the history of the independence of India, research the life of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

      • Wes says:

        “It doesn’t matter if one man fights or ten thousand; if the one man sees he has no option but to fight, then he will fight, whether he has others on his side or not.”

        Hans Fallada, Every Man Dies Alone

        “First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you.”

        Gandhi

        • Hans says:

          Nice quotes, Wes, but neither address the questions I posed.

          Try again next hour … the lines are open 24/7.

          Mr Snurdley, who is the next caller ?

      • Alice says:

        Youmean the little brown man who:

        slept with under age girls naked?

        took drugs that saved his life while refusing the same drugs to his wife

        the man who supported Hitler and told the British to surrender

        the man who aided the Japanese against the British

        the compassionate man who cheered on the violence that claimed between 4-6 million lifes during the partion of India

        the man who took an India with the same GNP as Japan in 1940 and by the time of his death saw Japan grow eight fold while he advocated a return to the 17th century

        If you want to see how a nation is destroyed review the life of Gandhi a man who had he lived in Russia instead of under the British would have lived out his life in the gulag.

        • Hans says:

          You can disparage Gandhi. And I can disparage any U.S. leader, just as easily, by selecting the facts of their life to suit my argument.

          I will not challenge the veracity of each of your allegations. I will address one of them to indicate how your sources may have skewed the facts.

          From the UK Telegraph:

          …in a letter (from Gandhi to Hitler) on December 24 1940. “We have no doubt about your bravery or devotion to your fatherland, nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents,” wrote Gandhi. “But your own writings and pronouncements and those of your friends and admirers leave no room for doubt that many of your acts are monstrous and unbecoming of human dignity, especially in the estimation of men like me who believe in universal friendliness.”

          With regard to your allegations of aid to Japan, I am not knowledgeable in detail. But would you deem it unreasonable that a man might seek assistance from an enemy of his British oppressor; in much the same way that G. Washington accepted assistance from France to defeat England?

          Gandhi was human and most certainly had flaws in both character and judgement. He did however, secure the independence of his homeland from powerful colonial rulers without initiating violence.

          That speaks well for the man.

          I can’t say the same for many U.S. leaders.

          • Hans says:

            PS -- regarding Gandhi “cheered on the violence”, please check the bias of your sources:

            Ravikumar Kulkarni, Lecturer (posted on Quora)
            Updated Feb 1, 2018

            Except Muslim league and some elite Muslims from North India, no body wanted Partition. The situation was forced upon by cunning British,league,aging Congressmen,greed of Jinna,rise of Hindu organizations and then violent political scenario.

            Gandhi was not god. He couldn’t convert the situations as he liked. He had to respond to political developments. Just like other Congressmen he too had to announce his willingness to Partition with bitter heart.

            But he had a good knack to win hearts of people. He was not in Delhi to celebrate the independence day. He was in Bengal to calm down the killing of people and riots. Within short time of his arrival there, both Muslims and Hindus stopped fighting. Because both loved and respected him.

            But it was not so in the Western front. There was no Gandhi there. Thousands of army men could not control the infighting. It took a million casualties.

            Gandhi might have agreed for Partition half heartedly. But he cannot be blamed for it. Because it was decided in London,to create a Jannat between India and Afghanistan plus an eastern wing which shall be a puppet of Western nations.

            But the Jannat turned out to be a hellhole. And now British hide in their rathole because of their past sins. Winston Churchill,the architect of partition lost his popularity soon after the war,confined to his house.The British did not elect him again.

            Yes , Gandhi agreed to Muslim majority Pakistan and Hindu majority India,out of frustration. Indians wanted Independence somehow.

            Whatever may be the case Gandhi truely lived up to the expectations of people.

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