This is easy. Someone was signing legislation, pardons and executive orders with an autopen since Joe Biden was mentally incompetent. The DOJ needs to file a suit reversing anything signed by the faux Biden.
From Grok:
If legislation, pardons, or executive orders signed by an autopen instead of Joe Biden were declared null and void, the consequences would depend on legal, political, and practical factors. Here’s a breakdown of what could happen:
Legal Consequences
- Invalidation of Actions: If a court ruled that autopen signatures lack the president’s direct intent or awareness—key for constitutional acts like signing bills, issuing pardons, or enacting executive orders—those actions could be deemed unconstitutional. The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 7) requires the president to sign bills into law, implying personal involvement. An autopen, if unauthorized or used without Biden’s knowledge, might not meet this standard, voiding affected laws.
- For example, the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act or the $40 billion Ukraine aid package, if signed by autopen without clear authorization, could be challenged.
- Pardons Reversed: Biden’s pardons—like those for Hunter Biden, Anthony Fauci, or Mark Milley on January 19, 2025—could be nullified. This might reopen legal cases against recipients, though proving autopen use alone wouldn’t automatically undo them; courts would need evidence Biden didn’t authorize it. Precedents like Gerald Ford’s pardon of Richard Nixon (pre-autopen era) show pardons are rarely overturned, but this could set a new legal test.
- Executive Orders Undone: Orders like the pause on liquefied natural gas exports or immigration policies could be struck down. Agencies would lose authority to enforce them, potentially halting regulations midstream.
Political Consequences
- Chaos in Governance: Voiding major legislation or orders from 2021–2025 could paralyze parts of the federal government. Agencies relying on those laws—like the EPA or DHS—might face immediate legal uncertainty, disrupting everything from environmental rules to border security.
- Partisan Firestorm: Republicans could exploit this to delegitimize Biden’s presidency, pushing to unravel his legacy. Democrats might counter that autopen use is routine (e.g., Obama signed a 2011 bill with it), accusing opponents of political overreach. Missouri AG Andrew Bailey’s call for a DOJ probe into Biden’s cognitive decline reflects this tension already brewing by March 2025.
- Congressional Backlash: Congress might rush to re-pass voided laws under Trump, though with a potentially different political makeup post-2024, outcomes could shift. Alternatively, gridlock could stall fixes.
Practical Consequences
- Economic Disruption: If funding bills (e.g., the 2022 omnibus) were voided, billions in allocated funds—say, for infrastructure or Ukraine—could be frozen, spiking uncertainty in markets and international relations. LNG export pauses being reversed might boost energy markets but anger environmentalists.
- Legal Limbo: Courts would face a flood of challenges. For instance, if Hunter Biden’s pardon was nullified, prosecutors could revive cases, but statutes of limitations or double jeopardy might complicate retries. The Supreme Court might ultimately decide, possibly years later.
- Precedent for Future: A ruling against autopen signatures could ban their use, forcing presidents to sign everything by hand—a logistical nightmare given modern government’s pace. Alternatively, Congress might clarify autopen legality to prevent future crises.
Caveats
- Historical Use: Autopens aren’t new—Thomas Jefferson used a precursor, and Obama set the modern precedent for legislation. Courts might uphold them if Biden authorized their use, as no law explicitly bans it.
- Burden of Proof: Challengers would need to prove Biden didn’t know or approve, which is tough without internal White House records. The Oversight Project’s March 2025 claims about widespread autopen use lack definitive evidence tying it to unawareness.
- Timing: As of March 16, 2025, no court has ruled on this. Speculation about nullification stems from groups like Heritage’s Oversight Project and figures like Bailey, but it’s not yet law.
Likely Outcome
Mass nullification is improbable without ironclad evidence of fraud or incapacity—think 25th Amendment-level proof, not just autopen use. Courts lean toward preserving stability; they’d likely uphold actions if Biden’s intent was documented. Short-term chaos might hit specific pardons or orders, but wholesale reversal of four years’ work would be a legal and political earthquake, restrained by practical limits. Still, even a partial ruling could reshape trust in executive power for decades.
Bidens intent to allow it’s use makes autopen legally His signature?
So that means we need to figure out when Biden became mentally incompetent, would it not?
I suspect that internal WH records might be hard to verify if not already destroyed.
The Political earthquake is the “Real Trick”. The party of Chaos (both wings) will be running hard interference judging from their current lawfare actions.
The price of revoking massive amounts of legal Gordan knot might be pretty high. Might be better to just Triage the mess and fix the worst parts today and deal with the rest as soon as practical.
Would be interesting to see a link for Thomas Jeffersons precursor of the autopen.
Looked it up, seems His autopen allowed him to sign one document while the “machine” signed the second document in a side by side set up. At least Thomas Jefferson actually had to be signing a document to get the second signed.
Unlike Obama on vacation in Hawaii “autopening” in DC.
Biden was not charged criminally for his records because the investigator said he was not mentally competent to stand trial. That should be a good start date. Or when he told Mike Johnson that he didn’t sign the legislation for exporting gas from Mississippi when it was already in place.
Googling when Biden was deemed incompetent to stand trial:
Special prosecutor’s report proves Joe Biden is unfit to remain president
PolitiFact | Fact-checking claims about what special counsel report said about Biden
‘A nightmare’: Special counsel’s assessment of Biden’s mental fitness triggers Democratic panic
Joe Biden was not deemed incompetent to stand trial | Fact Check
And so on. Doubtful that the courts thus far would support that Biden was deemed incompetent.
Seems NO Medical Records as far as I can find say so. The WH Doctor himself deemed Biden fit as a fiddle and all that more than once. At least according to Bidens Spokes Person 🙂 and Pelosi and Shumer and Military Chiefs of Staff.
White House Defends Biden Mental Acuity: ‘Sharp as Ever’
The rot is everywhere but you already knew that David.
The question still stands if the price for full untying of this Gordian Knot is worth the possible shattering of what’s left of our Republic.
The Party of Chaos and World Economic Forum folks would LOVE to see America’s Nationalism destroyed.
I think they’ve proven often enough they are willing to burn the country to the ground in order to rule over the ashes.
The issue is that people want some accountability for what has occurred in our country since 1960. Most would agree that the Biden election fraud was the most egregious act and the fraud in several states is provable so that the election could be vitiated. This would make the autopen issue moot. Milley’s treason is easily proved since he admitted it. The 51 intelligence officers are guilty and the trials would be short. There are many cases that would require minimal work for the individual(s) to be charged and convicted. We just want to see some action so that we can believe that we have a valid justice system again.
Not going to argue against accountability. It feels good but at what price will it entail?
The 3 letter agencies are dangerous. Who do you trust with your security? We already chatted about Tiger Hunting.
Didn’t Trump get smacked in the face by a Reporters boom mike last week? What interesting toxins could be on such a subtle OPPS “mistake?
I understand that has never happened before to a US President and the Secret Service didn’t stop it? Also, the shooting in Butler?
They can be brought to heel, I hope. But their master’s I suspect are globalists and Globalists have stated plainly that Nationalism isn’t acceptable in their plans.
It may indeed take the “night of the long knives” to terminate the employment (and retirement plans) of the whole system.
Again, who would you trust with that multi-prong simultaneous attack sequence. The military leadership is also corrupt.
It may be cheaper but less “brave” to bribe them to leave their employment and go to Dubai in retirement.
Wish it was otherwise, but the info needed to attack these bogus signatures is from individuals who will not willingly cooperate.
Additionally, they may refuse to testify or even be interviewed because they would be incriminating themselves on forgery, aiding & abetting forgery, conspiracy to commit forgery, accessory to forgery, use of a forged instrument, etc.
If some lower level DemonicRat slug could be flipped to expose higher up actors, that might be enough to get the matter fully in front of a court.
Pretty much EVERYTHING about Pedo Joe’s administration was illegitimate. But no judge anywhere in the country is going to rule that. They proved that when they refused to even HEAR the evidence about election fraud. Judges are cowards. They will NEVER stick their necks out and do what right.