Rep. Gaetz’s points are correct. However, that our “government” has devolved to such depths for the people to see is the reason why civil war is coming. I have to wonder why we have let the blood and treasure sacrificed to give us Liberty to be taken for granted. For if we do not take these sacrifices for granted, we would carry out ” Sic semper tyrannis”.
David DeGerolamo
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No doubt it was an orchestrated coup attempt. Will it lead to kinetic action? We’ll see.
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Full Spectrum is anti-Trump..I refuse to listen to his biased drivel…like others I have to ask them; do you REALLY feel you would be better off w another klinton in charge?
i have never heard any, any anti Trump-ism on Full Spectrum.
Being better off is not the question.
Are things Right? Has the dept been addressed?
Do you think Trump has warned america of what is coming, or has he created yet another illusion?
Agree, but why has Trump kow towed to the deep state? why hasn’t he shut down the UN in this country? drained the swamp and thrown the crooks in jail? protect the southern border? etc etc.? we no longer vote, America is finished. Too few areinformed and nothing will get done. Patriots have utterly failed since late ’50’s when protesting the UN agenda started.
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Matt Gaetz is a hero as was Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz before him. These men get to the heart of the matter and lay it down in no uncertain terms. The Radical Socialist Left will find that Americans do no take kindly to being hoodwinked with bull shit.
Civil War is inevitable. Gun sales continue to sky rocket. Citizens aren’t buying guns to voluntarily surrender them to the Stalinist.
Virginia may well be the ignition. Stalinist Democrats who think they can take guns by force. A Governor who thinks it’s ok to kill a baby after birth.
Economists Martin Armstrong’s cycles indicate Civil War in 2024/2025. I don’t think we have that much time.
The cancer is imbedded pretty deep. I’m not sure what it will take to remove the Sstalinists from America. But I can tell you that as well armed as the population is, it’s not going to be an easy or predictable conflict if it happens. But then again, The Lord may set off mount Ranier or New Madrid first.
Check the ethnicity of the witnesses, accusers, politicians pursuing impeachment.
This is a JEWISH COUP of the American Government.
This is a Jewish Bolshevik overthrow of America for a Foreign Country.
“Use the courts, use the judges, use the constitution
of the country, use its medical societies and its laws to
further our ends. Do not stint in your labor in this direction.
And when you have succeeded you will discover that you can now
effect your own legislation at will and you can, by careful
organisation, by constant campaigns about the terrors of
society, by pretence as to your effectiveness, make the
capitalist himself, by his own appropriation, finance a large
portion of the quiet Communist conquest of that nation.”
(Address of the Jew Laventria Beria, The Communist Textbook on
Psychopolitics, page 8).
“they” wish to destroy Christianity because with no “Loving God” there are no GOD given RIGHTS. That removes the basis of the entire Constitution. That is why Bolsheviks rabidly attack religion.
The concept of God given Human Rights comes from the religion birthed by Slaves, Poor, and Downtrodden, Christianity.
Your post is exactly true and to the point. Too bad the GOP don’t have the balls to name the players for who they are and the political agenda they are trying to achieve. Thank you for the guts to speak the truth.
You call them Jews and bolshevics in the same breath. The two are incompatible. Real Jews are of God, and the bullshitvics do not believe in any god.
Crystal Clarity
Stop blaming the Jews for what our lefties are doing! You cite NO evidence of that and those who curse Israel will themselves be cursed.
You have no historical accuracy or context for your comment. Had you the determination to do the research YOURSELF you would fins ample evidence how Ashkenazi Jews have usurped power in the countries they have lived in to the point there are 149 countries (historically) who have kicked them out.
One does not enter into warfare lightly so thinking we should already be up in arms is not a good way to go. We wait until the actual consummation of the behavior and then we act, otherwise we’re just pre-crime idiots. Once they proceed with illegal action to attempt removal of the president, which will be difficult since the US Marines will be called in, then we go after the criminals in congress and the federal government. All in due time gentlemen.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.. http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.html
I think the long train of abuses already committed is enough for action. I know that the time for action would have already occurred if our founding fathers were alive. Maybe if you ask the drug addicts living in their own waste in San Francisco how the government is working or do you want to keep in the pot until the water is boiling over?
David,
Do you assume that they are all innocent? The drug addicts etc.?
Is it the governments responsibility? Should it be?
We can not have this both ways.
We both know that humans are flawed creatures. God’s love provided (and provides) a pathway to salvation. Evil provides pathways to destroy lives and souls. I am saying that this government is evil. Which side is influencing San Francisco?
“All in due time gentlemen.”
I agree with your comment. In my opinion, now is the time for organizing locally, making a local inventory of supplies, logistical resources, and formation of action groups to handle “protest missions” against these criminals. Not planning is planning to fail. TET
Exactly right.
I,m afraid the war will happen just as the communist liberals want.They will scream for the UN troops for help then all out war begins,there won,t be a hole deep enough for these traitors to hide in.Retribution is ours…..
It appears that christians and 2nd amendment advocates have made their choice. Civil War does appear inevitable. Myself, as a supporter of the Federal Government, no longer consider compromise as a viable alternative. In my opinion, any state, county or municipality that engages in an insurrection against the Federal Government should have every Federal dollar removed from that area. All disability, medicare, medicaid, social security, federal pensions, military pensions and other Federal funds being injected should cease. All Federal jobs in said areas should be removed and relocated to Federal friendly areas. All military bases should be closed down and all equipment relocated to Federal friendly areas. Since these insurrectionists aren’t interested in compliance with the Federal Government then their access to Federal funds should cease.
That is Step 1.
I would say that is fair if:
I do not have to pay federal taxes, social security and medicare taxes (including our employer’s share), adhere to any government regulations and agencies, can print my own currency backed by tangible assets and practice my religion without intervention or hate.
I can add to the above list medical costs, immigration costs and the ability to move my US assets out of the country. I suppose that you just forgot the $876,000 debt per family courtesy of the federal government. You also forgot the original intent of the Federal government outlined in the Constitution and our founding fathers. Quisling.
All of your comments are best addressed by a legal team in a court of law. However, you could just refuse to comply. Perhaps this is your best course of action. Only you can decide what is best for you. I’m sure that the Federal Government will have a response for your actions.
You sound like the kid on the playground threatening everyone with his big brother.
Your courts are a joke, that has been delegitimized by activists that have not only demonstrated but declared that they will rule, I use that word both lightly and as a double entendre, as they wish. No doubt your courts would choose their own desired ends of power. No. More.
In addition to financial separation, including no more taxes, I demand the return with interest of all my SS that I’ve paid for the last 30 years. Not that your federal dollars are worth squat. Junk status bonds is what they are.
You can demand anything that you wish. Having the power to enforce your demands is another issue altogether. Empty words mean nothing. Empty threats mean nothing. Force of action is everything.
A typical Tory response. As for the government’s response, they already attacked me personally using the IRS. And in that case, they folded when I filed a lawsuit against them in Superior Court. But I know they are biding their time for any patriots who are moral enough to water the tree of Liberty. I suggest that you learn your history and thank God for the sacrifices made against an intolerant government which led to the Great Experiment.
Samuel Adams said:
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
May God have mercy on the souls who put wealth above faith and Liberty. I suspect that our side will show more mercy than your side based on your words and the actions of the Deep State.
And just who are you calling “insurrectionists”? Those of us who have watched our duly elected President smeared from day one? I’m calling BS to this comment. There has been no attempt to compromise by the left and many parts of the touted Federal Government itself has been complicit in this attempted coup. When I see rule of law return to this Republic, the coup plotters perp walked and punished, perhaps then will I feel the need to curb my criticism of the “Federal Government!” TET
Your criticism is your perspective…nothing more or less. You can choose to not comply. There may be consequences for your decisions. The choice for noncompliance rests with you and you alone.
Maybe so, but there may just be many others with the same perspective as mine. Compliance to what? Your perspective?
Hogwash! TET
Yes indeed, you may be correct in your assessment. Only time will tell. However, I am confident that the Federal Government has adequate tools to deal with those who choose the path of noncompliance. My sincerest hope is that cooler heads on the christian/2nd amendment side of the discussion reconsider the path that they are on and come on board with the Federal Government in a spirit of unity. I don’t think its in the best interests of anyone to make their family members suffer as a result of their quixotic venture.
The U.S. government is a for profit private corporation regulated by international commerce law. It is not our constitutional for the people, by the people government. All the states were enticed to become incorporated, when they did this (for federal revenue) they ceased being our constitutional gov. The original constitution was a contract for services, not to run our lives. Its time for these bankers that run this corporation are taken out back. Do your own investigation on this. We have all been not only lied to but are having our wealth stolen from us under false pretenses. Think you own your house? you dont. You wouldnt be paying taxes on it (homage to the king) if you did. I was once told that being a christian was pursuing truth. That ultimately is the truth. We are on the same team here. Divide and conquer is at play.
You and I are FAR from the same team. Your team has chosen the path of insurrection. You have chosen the path of insurrection. Note the struggles of Washington and his cohorts during the Revolutionary War. What you insurrectionists face is something far more powerful and pervasive. Remember the insurrectionists at Ruby Ridge and the Waco Branch Davidians. This is the path that you are choosing to walk. Your noncompliance can only end in disaster for you and others associated with you.
You definitely have a strange definition of insurrection.
So you would have us crouch in fear of a government that in your referenced cases murdered innocent children? You know that the government lost in the courts for the Ruby Ridge murders:
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/23/us/us-settles-final-civil-lawsuit-stemming-from-ruby-ridge-siege.html
You also forgot the murder of LaVoy Finnicum. How many murders will the Deep State commit before we submit? As many as they can. Except we will not submit to the Deep State or Islam.
Have you even considered that many/most of those in the Federal Government are insurrectionists themselves who are flouting and breaking the Constitution on a daily basis?
Just what is it that you think constitutes the Federal Government, the Constitution or a bunch of communist infiltrators in bureaucratic positions? Are you even cognizant of the communist takeover of the Czechs in 1948 as the model for future bureaucratic takeovers by communists?
The. US government is pledged to protect the rights of the people preserved in the Constitution, not a bunch of faceless communist bureaucrats bent on ruling the people.
I find your perspective repugnant to everything that is American.
Be that as it may…in regards to your finding my comments repugnant….so be it. I would not expect any supporters of fundamentalist christianity/2nd amendment rights to say anything less. However, I believe that your perspectives regarding the Constitution and the Federal Government to be a “relic of a bygone era.” Have you thought about the ramifications of your Civil War actions? Are you willing to endure deprivation and poverty the rest of your days…and lets not forget the deprivation and poverty that will be visited upon your family members. Have you asked them about their perspectives regarding your insurrection? Ponder the ramifications of your actions.
Oh your siren song of comfort. Ignore that yoke on your shoulders and the shackles on your feet and wrists. Basque in the warm of your prison cell and be comforted by the guards watching over you.
The fact that whatever comes out of the proverbial sausage machine is guaranteed to not look anything like this former nation is a feature not a bug.
Your attitudes, values and mores are reprehensible. Insurrectionists, like yourself, will not fare well in your burgeoning Civil War. However, this is the path you have chosen.
It’s the globalist/communist traitors inside the gov’t who are the insurrectionists, bud. They swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. It is not a “relic” as you so colorfully term it.
And let’s be clear that it won’t just be one side who will be paying a high price if it comes to that.
You are smug now, but things will be very different if/when the SHTF. I’m sure that you have a rock somewhere that you think ypu can crawl back under.
I will be closing comments on this post later today. Know your enemy and what drives them. In the case of Mr. Marsh, it appears that fear and ignorance of history are his motivations. What he does not realize is that in the fight against evil, we do not consider death to be a detriment but a release. I could not imagine trying to justify not standing up to evil on Judgment Day.
I agree, with your comment. My take away for this conversation is that we have been treated to the rantings of a dyed in the wool fascist, attempting to use their usual tactic of projection of their own treason, to vilify anyone who would call them out and make them responsible for the mess we are facing. The very mess they created.TET
I would like to make a point before closing.
The “gov’t is given certain types of authority, voluntarily, by the people, with very specific duties and restrictions in the founding documents. The founding documents are the “contract” with the people.
If/when the gov’t breaks this social contract with the people, and evinces a design to reduce them under despotism, then it is no longer “the gov’t”, and has no lawful authority. It becomes nothing more than a gang of thugs, pretending to be “gov’t”.
It matters not what color costumes they are wearing, or what fraudulent claims to power that they infer. They are usurpers, and the prescription is clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence.
Failure of gov’t to protect and defend the rule of law laid out in our Constitution is the definition of abdication of true authority from the people. Anyone who proceeds that way is a criminal, and also likely a traitor, and should be dealt with accordingly. In the event that this usurpation overcomes the government’s fair upholding of the rule of law, it is incumbent upon the people to make new guards for our prosperity.
For over 200 years, Americans have fought and died to preserve our Constitution. We will not let it fall on our watch, no matter what the price. They will not have died in vain.