From Publius Huldah:
North Carolina is among the sneakiest states—their favorite trick is letting bills stay in committee until any controversy subsides, and then suddenly bringing them to a committee or floor vote without notice–sometimes in the middle of the night!
North Carolina’s Term Limits (TL) application asking Congress to call an Article V convention (A5C) passed the House on March 17 and was immediately sent to the Rules and Operations of the Senate Committee. (NC’s remaining application in the House will be on the next blast).
Here is the A5C application in the North Carolina Senate: H172 (Term Limits): Pending in the Senate Rules & Operations Committee since March 17.
We suggest you make your letters short. If House members are interested in researching further, refer them to an attachment or link for an article, flyer, video, etc. They may be more apt to read them.
“ The Article V Convention Lobby Unmasks Itself” flyer shows that the proponents of an A5C don’t believe their own narrative—that 34 states must pass applications with the same or similar language to trigger a convention; and that the convention can’t veer from the subject of the applications. Now they are admitting Congress can aggregate the different applications! New Flyer!!
The ” Phony Polls” Flyer (attached) describes the phony Polls used by the convention lobby to sway Legislators. Polls use trick questions, focusing on the irrelevant subject of the application (i.e. term limits) rather than the dangers of a convention, which few are aware of. USTL and other groups consistently brag about the huge percent of voters they represent, according to polls.
If legislators don’t hear from us on the A5C issue, they remain uneducated and go along with the special interests. Let’s go get ’em! First, please leave a short phone message for these 3 Senate Leaders, and ask them NOT to bring up H172 (Term Limits/Art. 5 convention) in committee or on the floor (see below):
| Senator | Title | Phone | Don’t bring H172 in Committee (or on the Floor) |
| Sen. Bill Rabon | Rules Comm. Chair | (919) 733-5963 | in Committee |
| Sen. Kathy Harrington | Majority Leader | (919) 733-5734 | on the Floor |
| Sen. Phil Berger | President Pro Tem | (919) 733-5708 | on the Floor |
Now please write all 50 members of the North Carolina Senate, and ask them to VOTE “No” onH 172 and any other applications asking Congress to call an Article V convention:
Copy the addresses below as a blockinto “BCC,”and copy your own address into the “To” box; andplace thebill # and description (i.e. Art. V convention) on the subject line.Senate Republicans (28) – Dear Senator: (If you’re a Republican or conservative, tell the Republicans so!)
Ted.Alexander@ncleg.gov, Deanna.Ballard@ncleg.gov, Lisa.Barnes@ncleg.gov, Phil.Berger@ncleg.gov, Danny.Britt@ncleg.gov, Jim.Burgin@ncleg.gov, Kevin.Corbin@ncleg.gov, David.Craven@ncleg.gov, Warren.Daniel@ncleg.gov, Chuck.Edwards@ncleg.gov, Carl.Ford@ncleg.gov, Amy.Galey@ncleg.gov, Kathy.Harrington@ncleg.gov, Ralph.Hise@ncleg.gov, Brent.Jackson@ncleg.gov, Steve.Jarvis@ncleg.gov, Todd.Johnson@ncleg.gov, Joyce.Krawiec@ncleg.gov, Michael.Lazzara@ncleg.gov, Michael.Lee@ncleg.gov, Tom.McInnis@ncleg.gov, Paul.Newton@ncleg.gov, Jim.Perry@ncleg.gov, Dean.Proctor@ncleg.gov, Bill.Rabon@ncleg.gov, Norman.Sanderson@ncleg.gov, Vickie.Sawyer@ncleg.gov, Bob.Steinburg@ncleg.gov,
Senate Democrats (22) – Dear Senator:
Sydney.Batch@ncleg.gov, Ernestine.Bazemore@ncleg.gov, Dan.Blue@ncleg.gov, Jay.Chaudhuri@ncleg.gov, Ben.Clark@ncleg.gov, Sarah.Crawford@ncleg.gov, Don.Davis@ncleg.gov, Kirk.deViere@ncleg.gov, Toby.Fitch@ncleg.gov, Valerie.Foushee@ncleg.gov, Michael.Garrett@ncleg.gov, Jeff.Jackson@ncleg.gov, Paul.Lowe@ncleg.gov, Natasha.Marcus@ncleg.gov, Julie.Mayfield@ncleg.gov, Mujtaba.Mohammed@ncleg.gov, Natalie.Murdock@ncleg.gov, Wiley.Nickel@ncleg.gov, Gladys.Robinson@ncleg.gov, DeAndrea.Salvador@ncleg.gov, Joyce.Waddell@ncleg.gov, Mike.Woodard@ncleg.gov,
Thank you for defending our Constitution!
Thank you! Get those letters in and make those calls!
For the addresses of all of the North Carolina Senators, and for the fascinating Flyers, email me at publiushuldah@gmail.com
I am absolutely amazed of your support of the claims being issued here by opponents regarding this issue. 1) The provision the founders provided in the Constituion in Article V specifically allows the states a constitutionally sanctioned option to call an Article V Amendment as the tool to reign in the federal government when it exceeds it’s constitutional role, which it most certainly has. 2) Article V has been used 17 times since the Bill of Rights without issue, the ONLY difference in the entire process is the Amendments proposed would this time originate in the states instead of the US Congress so Congress is bypassed entirely in this process other than setting the time and place for the convention. Federal Government power = 0%, States power = 100%. If anyone thinks the US Congress is a better bet than your state congress, I ask why would you trust Representatives and Senators from 49 other states to make better choices for your state than your own state legislature? If so vote your state reps out asap..
Please research this issue fully before spreading incorrect information and fear mongering that continues allowing the federal government to ignore and trample the constitutionally guaranteed rights of the people and the states. If you choose the federal government’s unconstitutional dominance over your own state’s rights and think the founders would specifically include a provision for the States to counter the federal government’s for no good reason then you’re part of the Swamp problem. Asking your state reps to vote no on this bill is a vote for the federal government’s excess to continue unchecked. How is that working for you currently? Please research folks and keep yourselves well!
I disagree with your assessment. Let me ask you one question: who will appoint the delegates to this Con Con?
Do your own research on how a meeting for questions concerning the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union usurped the existing government and was renamed the Constitutional Convention.
If you think the state governments are better than the federal government, look at the 2020 elections that the “states” ran.
1) The delegates would be selected by each individual states legislatures, they can send as many delegates as they wish to but each state only gets one vote. I’m certain I’m thankful that you weren’t throwing around the “Con Con” nonsense when in particular the Bill of Rights, 13th, 15th, 19th, 21st, 22nd, 24th, 27th Amendments were being considered and ratified otherwise we wouldn’t have those. Amendments can sometimes be a wondrous thing, they contain and ensure our dearest rights in the Constitution.
2) I have studied this subject in depth and have read the commissions issued by both the individual states and the Confederation Congress for the delegates in 1787. I would think we would agree that the government structure under the Confederation was proving highly unworkable which is the reason the Convention was called. Are you seriously saying that patriots and founders like Benjamin Franklin, George Washington and James Madison were immoral men who exceeded their commission and violated their oaths? Do you believe the Confederation Congress unanimously agreed to send the proposed Constitution to the States if it was an egregious overreach of their commissions? Or that the states would unanimously ratify the new Constitution? All these commissions and notes on the Convention are available online, please go back and reread them again and tell me where the states, the Confederation Congress or the commissioners exceeded their authority. Our Constitution specifically allows for Amendments to be proposed and considered. That has been accomplished 17 times since the Bill of Rights without our government being overthrown or our Constiution thrown out why are you concerned that would occur the 18th time?
3) I think HR1 and HR127 are absolute vile atrocities just as recent examples, so yes I do think the states by and large are a far better choice than trusting in the federal government (some states are far better than others no doubt). It is the lesser of two evils if you will.
“I would think we would agree that the government structure under the Confederation was proving highly unworkable”
You would think wrongly. A unitary centralized government was unworkable under the Articles because that’s not the type of governing structure the Articles created. It might surprise you that some who read or comment here would have been in the “Anti-Federalist” camp and would have voted to reject the creation of a single, supreme, centralized government.
It’s a moot point 234 years later, but the same arguments made for the U.S. Constitution will be made in the future regarding the “unification” of the U.S.A. with Canada, Mexico, and possibly other nations under a single, sovereign, centralized government.
“Our Constitution specifically allows for Amendments to be proposed and considered. That has been accomplished 17 times since the Bill of Rights without our government being overthrown or our Constiution thrown out why are you concerned that would occur the 18th time?”
Again confusing the Amendment process overall with the calling of a Constitutional Convention — two different animals.
Conflating the Amendment process of Article V with a Constitutional Convention at which Amendments (NOT limited to any specific amendments) may be proposed is a straw man argument.
Congress does not determine the Amendments to be considered at a Constitutional Convention, but neither do those states calling for the Convention get to restrict which amendments do get proposed. In other words, it’s open season for a complete rewrite of the Constitution and BoR. Now, that may not happen; but I’d be shocked if the 2d Amdt survived a Constitutional Convention. Of course, we haven’t really had the protection of the 2d since the 1930s so …
I doubt any of the first 10 Amendments would survive. We’d have and entirely new constitution and government, just like we got from the first Constitutional Convention.
The idea that government excess would be checked by a Constitutional Convention is preposterous.
“Damned if you Do, and Damned if you Don’t” is how I see it. I despair of Any Legislative, Executive, or Judicial “Fixes” certainly at the FEral Gov. level, States are questionable, Counties better but probably impotent in confronting bigger governments.
So, What If there are No Governmental Remedies, only Governmental Tyrannies?
DONE and copied to loved ones…I also asked them to use the 10th amendment to protect the 2nd from any potential future unconstitutional legislation