According to Grok, there are 80,000 – 100,000 people over 100 years old living in the United States. Social Security has 20,789,524 people in their system over 100 years old receiving payments.
There is no way that the government did not know of this discrepancy. It does not take a genius to run a simple database query. The same will be uncovered at Medicare, Medicaid, the Department of Defense and all medical agencies. This is the end game for the Cloward-Piven strategy and the destruction of our Republic.
Donald Trump and DOGE did not uncover massive fraud: they only shed light on the fraud with undeniable proof. There are simple ways to stop the fraud from continuing but there also are ways to collect some these social security payments:
- Announce that anyone who repays the last 12 months of fraudulent payments within two weeks will not be prosecuted.
- After two more weeks, anyone who repays the total amount of fraudulent payments plus fines will not be prosecuted.
- After one month, everyone will be prosecuted and all of their assets will be seized. They will go to prison if convicted.
That should bring at least $100 billion back into the treasury in a short time frame. This solution would work in other areas where fraud has occurred except in Medicare. Doctors are too greedy to pay back their fraudulent invoices.
Don’t be surprised if folks like Pelosi and others have hundred I not thousands of accounts receiving money, or that even the CIA has a black money account receiving hundreds of millions every month.
Theft should be painful.
However, if they are dead how much law enforcement investigation are we going to do to FIND those that Really Collected those funds?
Good Money after bad? Or at least just go after the BIG FISH that got the money AND the fake voters.
They are dead but the people who are cashing the checks and spending the money are not. The paper trail is easy to trace.
Return On Investment.
Half hearted investigators could make it very worthless.
Paying them a % of the recovered from Big Fish would get them well motivated.
Do not agree. Make them pay back to the date of death, plus interest and penalties, and a fee for the bean counters who do the calculations to determine the amount owed back to the government. The IRS will come after money owed back 7 years plus interest and penalties.
I understand. The magnitude of the fraud is overwhelming: we do not have enough prisons to accommodate the guilty. This is low hanging fruit and if successful, we could use it for other cases of fraud.
Prison?? Who said anything about prison? They’d still be a financial burden to other US taxpayers. Take everything they own, sell it or outright give it to the poor, garnish their wages and/or SS payments until every penny is paid back.
Random question, how are these dead people getting SS payments, and the IRS is notified by SS number annually the payments have been made and yet no tax return is filed and the IRS does nothing?
Tom do you remember the outrage over a Grandmother arrested for praying near a abortion clinic?
Trump is a populist President. Dismissing Jan 6th folks and driving the Beast at Daytona.
Busting a bunch of already poverty level Grandmother’s for their dead husband’s Social security is playing right into the Deep States hands.
Takes the same number of lawyer hours to get one grandmother for a few thousand dollars as to get after a Big Fish.
Going after the Big Fish who have setup thousands of fake SS accounts and provided to illegals gives you more recovered money AND better support from normal Americans.
They have to pay it back with interest and penalty. The same as Joe Blow who runs afoul of IRS.
A flat tax and NO IRS seems a better option.
Simple interest for errors and punishment fines for real troublemakers.
Acting like the scummy Democrats isn’t in the Republics favor. Just makes us as nasty as they are.
I have been an off-grid doc for 20 yrs (no 3rd party payments, simple fee-for-service) but it is my understanding that they can be super aggressive going after docs for Mcare/Mcaid fraud. I suppose it doesn’t happen to ‘connected’ docs, but there are people hammered financially & even sent to prison.
System is SO BROKEN -- I would like to see the .gov stay OUT of everything not expressly prescribed in that document written B old white guys in the late 18th Century! Of course, even THAT was an illegal usurping of the Articles of Confederation.
Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union.
Musk said more people collecting then our total population
a little simple math here…. 20 million checks written every month, for retirement benefits of the average $1500… is $30 billion…A MONTH.
that’s $360 billion a year. Musk wants to save/cut one Trillion by July ’26, and this will put him 1/3 of the way there.