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All modern prophets are false. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Jim, your statement reflects that you must believe all the fruits of the Spirit are over and done with. I respectfully disagree. I know first hand of healings that are unexplainable accept by the hand of God. I do agree that there are many, many false prophets but, to say there are non, is unscriptural. The bible is clear on this:
Acts 2:17
New International Version
17
“‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202%3A17&version=NIV
Brewer any thoughts on the Header. Violence is a tool?
“Violence is a tool.”
This strikes me as a little off.
i can not find one passage in the Bible that holds violence up as a good thing!
What word is violence?
1a : the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy. b : an instance of violent treatment or procedure. 2 : injury by or as if by distortion, infringement, or profanation : outrage. 3a : intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force the violence of the storm.
Proverbs 16:29 A violent man entices his neighbor and leads …https://biblehub.com › proverbs
A man of violence entices his neighbor, And leads him in a way that is not good.
Habakkuk 1:3 -- Why do you make me look at injustice? Why …https://www.biblestudytools.com › habakkuk
Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails.
https://www.clarion-journal.com/clarion_journal_of_spirit/2013/06/the-so-called-violence-of-jesus-in-the-so-called-cleansing-of-the-temple-by-brad-jersak.html
Based on the definition above for violence, Jesus overturning the moneychangers’ tables in the temple would qualify.
Not the way i see it. Besides all of this, Overturning tables in a temple is not the reasoning behind this glorifying of violence. His righteous anger is of no comparison of what so many are calling for!
Also have a comment in the waiting room for further attn. that would describe better.
“waiting for approval.”
Did Mashiak whip the people?
They have changed it’s definition, American dictionary of the english language 1828. Physical force; strength of action or motion; as the violence of a storm; the violence of a blow or conflict.
I’m still trying to understand the relevance of your post on ‘violence’. I do not see how it references my response to Jim about his statement that all new prophets are false. I made no reference to biblical scripture as it relates to violence.
Is your post about something said in the video, y or n?
My question stemmed from the NC Renegade Headline post, no comments allowed.
i value your thoughts, that is why i asked you.
I obviously missed his headline post. I don’t see it on this posting so, you must be referring to another one?
Matt Trewhella
First Video on Home page. Violence is a Tool.
again thanks for having a look.
Ok, now I understand your post. I’ll go listen to it now and I’ll offer a response/reply on that post.
Note: Next time, a little more clarity would help! 😉
Now I understand why you replied on this thread and not the one on ‘Violence is a tool’. No comments available on that posting.
So, here is my take; my opinion.
I am a lay person saved 35 years ago. I’ve read the bible cover to cover (usually the One Year Bible) more times than I can count. That being said, the bible has many examples where God instructed his anointed ones to destroy the enemy. And I mean destroy as in men, women, children, livestock, etc.
For years I did not understand the God of the Old Testament in this regard. Then, through time and continued study, I found out about the Nephilim, the polluted and evil seed of the fallen angels (demons). It is the reason for the Great Flood (Noah) and later, the Word from God to Joshua to destroy the likes of Og and his kingdom of Nephilim.
In our current time, the fallen ones are still at work. Through technologies like CRISPR and other gene editing technology they are once again trying to create a lineage of beings that are not of the seed of Adam.
This could be a very lengthy topic of discussion and it would be too much to go into here but, all that being said, under the right circumstances, and with much prayerful consideration, I believe God would allow his people to destroy the evils of this world. It indeed would be violent, and bloody, and may lives would be lost.
This is not biblical but, it holds true in my book.
“Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.”
understood.
And also understood from my study, He takes no pleasure in the destruction of evil. And it would seem He generally brings evil, greater evil against the evil he is about to crush.
Thank you for your patience and input.
“Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.”
So what constitutes doing nothing?
John 18:6 -- 6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
I think knocking someone to the ground is a violent act.
Brewer any thoughts on the Header. Violence is a tool?
“Violence is a tool.”
This strikes me as a little off.
i can not find one passage in the Bible that holds violence up as a good thing!
Maybe I’ve not had enough coffee yet this morning but, I’m not following you. If you are referring to something in the video by Cahn, I have not watched it yet.
What Bible are you reading? The Old Testament is full of violence.
1 Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
I was looking for that one also.
Ephesians 4:11 -- 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 -- 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
As i watched the video, this is what i am called to say:
Regardless of what you believe or think, regardless of those who mock Mashiak or this man calling him the con man. He gives relevant and pertinent facts and history line. am not saying this man is perfect nor does he know everything. Pray for discernment in all matters.
Trump:
“God is sovereign, He will use who He will use.”
Notice: This does not mean Trump was here or is coming to “Save you or us! As many false prophets aided and guided many to believe! Mark Taylor etc. etc.!
Notice Jonathan is not praising himself nor Donald Trump! He is praising whom?
Notice we are not in the clear, pray for revival, pray that all who can be reached will be reached and afforded the time as is His will. The fight continues, the battle that matters most, the real war! Persevere, overcome!
“we are still standing”
Always question anyone who uses words like “Mashiak” and “Yah”, etc. as if they have special unknown to you knowledge and teachings.
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”
‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, “I am who I am.”
You are right in saying I am.
This is the same God who uses and/or blesses violence as a tool as written throughout scripture. Did not Abraham weld the sword? Moses? The Prophets? The Kings? Were they not violent men? Does this mean that they “lived by the sword”? Violence for violence own sake?
When Abram heard that his kinsman had been taken captive, he led forth his trained men, born in his house, 318 of them, and went in pursuit as far as Dan.
Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.
Is it not said of David, I have found in David the son of Jesse a man after my heart, who will do all my will.
Surely, I AM has His warriors.
Good point:
Jeremiah 9:4
Take ye heed every one of his neighbor, and trust ye not in any brother; for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbor will go about with slanders …
You’ve visited this page 3 times. Last visit: 4/18/22
And yet you could ask why i use these words instead of making assumptions and or snide remarks. i also do not care much for the word Lord, lord, etc. If you truly cared i would explain why.
Micah7:5
Good point:
Jeremiah 9:4
Take ye heed every one of his neighbor, and trust ye not in any brother; for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbor will go about with slanders …
You’ve visited this page 3 times. Last visit: 4/18/22
And yet you could ask why i use these words instead of making assumptions and or snide remarks. i also do not care much for the word Lord, lord, etc. If you truly cared i would explain why.
Micah7:5
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I see my comment wasn’t approved as usual after all the stories I’ve shared daily from this site and a fellow North Carolinian who lives in Pilot mountain I have to say your part of the problem . Don’t every talk about or right stories on censorship or complain when your no better.
I have simple rules concerning comments that are outlined on the site. Attacking people, writing false information, foul language and making the commenter look badly are good reasons to not post comments. As in your comment above, you have a run on sentence, four misspelled words and make a false assumption concerning why previous comments were not approved.