Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the far-right group known as the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison for seditious conspiracy and other crimes related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, receiving by far the longest sentence in a Jan. 6 case to date.
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The leftist viewpoint of the case.
David DeGerolamo
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Scum of the earth, Stewart Rhodes is an innocent political prisoner. The Judge is the guilty one, we need to make sure they all end up with a bad understanding in life.
OK. Simple math -- we have to help fund his appeal.
Please post the crowdfunding link, public court documents, and office contact info for the offending Judge(s) and prosecutors…. and the high points of the case to make us literate in our communication.
They need to hear from us, professionally. Judges have been living in a vacuum for too long, thinking that no one is watching what they do.
Example: Judge Michael Truncale in Texas just dumped whistleblower Brook Jackson’s case against Pfizer by refusing to hear a massive chunk of the evidence. Before he did that, I called his office to offer a set of downloaded articles and documents about Pfizer’s perfidy. His assistant said there was no way I could provide information to him -- which was UTTER BS. We need to change the attitude of these judicial offices. We CAN write to judges. We CAN send information… and they ARE ethically obliged to review it.
If they do NOT factor in what we the public send to them, and rule in opposition to known facts, they can be removed from office in a re-call or impeachment proceeding.
You’re not wrong, you have observed one of the problems hurting our society. Activist individuals think they are above their duty as representatives of the people. They do what THEY want and think is right, not what their constituents want.
This is that same attitude that pervades north eastern parts of our country I keep telling you about -- I know, I used to live there.
Just like this judge, THEY BELIEVE IN THEIR HEART AND SOUL THEY KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. They truly believe they are superior, and will enforce their will upon you given the chance. Thats why politicians and judges and cops just do what they want, fuck the law… in their minds, they are 110% certain they are right, and know better than you. They believe it entirely, and act accordingly.
I think Stewart Rhoades is a POS, however he is not guilty of any crime. Whether we like him or not we have to defend him otherwise we will be next.
So why is he a POS?
For starters, he directly sabotaged and caused the collapse of the Bundy Ranch defense.
I must be missing something. The federal government released the cattle and backed down. What collapse are you talking about?
If this does not provide perfect clarity for the fact that it’s over except for the final shoot out I don’t know what would.
Sorry I can only give this 1 thumbs up.
Yeah, people STILL don’t get it. The Gestapo is rounding up and jailing political opponents. ROUNDING UP AND JAILING POLITICAL OPPONENTS! Where have we seen that before, hmmm…..
I predict a lot of shootings this summer to setup the final confiscation of firearms. It can be an election issue to divide people further.
That is what you get for trying to revive the constitution in our democracy, take heed all!
“democracy” we are not and never have been such. Democracy is a foul word, and its baseline connotation is “mob-rule” or 50.1% rule. With all due respects, to you Lawnmore. Now we are just a fourth world banana republik.
I agree lets stop using the language of the marxist. Dont accept their premise on anything ever
I agree and never use term “democracy” accept around those who know the difference or to correct those who don’t know what form our government is.
you are right, for us and the founders of our Republic, democracy is a foul word, but we are no longer a Republic under the rule of constitutional law, it isn’t even a real democracy; as you say it is a banana republic, just masquerading as a democracy.
The people have been taught it is a democracy for about a hundred years. Most dictionaries show Republics to be nearly synonymous with a democracy. It took me several years to find out the truth about our Republic and what it really means, and that was about fifty years ago!
America doesn’t have democracy per se, but rather a hybrid of politicized democracy. What would your definition of unadulterated democracy be?
“Theory of Anarchy” by Edward Abbey
“The problem of democracy is the problem of power–how to keep power decentralized, equally distributed, fairly shared. Anarchism means maximum democracy: the maximum possible dispersal of political power, economic power and force–military power.”
“Anarchy is democracy taken seriously, as in Switzerland, where issues of national importance are decided by direct vote of all citizens. Where each citizen, after his period of military training, takes his weapon home with him, to keep for life. Anarchy is democracy taken all the way, in every major sector of social life. For example, political democracy will not survive in a society which permits a few to accumulate economic power over the many. Or in a society which delegates police and military power to an elite corps of professionals. Sooner or later the professionals will take over.”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/edward-abbey-theory-of-anarchy
The economic mentality and according disposition of a people is in direct correlation as to whether they have legitimate democracy. Therefore it goes without saying that there could not possibly be authentic democracy or political representation, or even a constitutional republic in America when all the power of the people is directed away from them and towards an economic elite such as with having a low wage service economy as the primary system of earnings and means of generating wealth for much of the public, along with allowing the manufacturing to be sent abroad and the earlier indicator of permitting the ghettos to be entrenched throughout society, thereby ensuring the political subservience and the perpetuating of socio-cultural backwardness of not only people groups but spanning across locales that would surely, and has resulted in blowback (in part because the progressives do understand this and legislate on its behalf, i.e., such as the Frankfurt School (those who realize the real power is derived from the cultural front). If conservative types understood the means and mechanisms of social governance, many of their problems and dilemmas would be alleviated. People don’t want to subscribe to, fight or partner with a group that won’t work to ensure their financial well-being and mobility thereof. Ultimately the word democracy can’t really apply to many on the political right because they’re not social-political activists. When one starts reading and learning about anarchism and other more authentic democratic environments i.e., such as the philosophical and political expression and underpinnings for instance, its very clear why there’s no traction for much of mainstream populace across the social, cultural and political spheres. People who have no stake to claim not only in the economic realm (beyond their immediate interests), don’t get to have democracy because they don’t agitate for its components anyway. This however also applies to liberals and politically neutral persons. Therefore it’s necessary that the manufacturing is gone. People will have to learn this the hard way (because the educational system didn’t teach them).
It is nice to get respectful disagreements, thanks.
He’s an example of why I keep saying, “never let yourself be detained”. If you’re detained your life is over anyway and your remaining time will likely be worse than death. Fight and die if you must, because the end result is the same, and you might at least take some of the evil bastards with you. Solzhenitsyn had a quote about this concept.
What needs to happen is the militia needs to muster and conduct a prison break and shut the place down in the process.
noway2 have you ever visited someone in prison?
I had to visit a solder in prison. I’ve seen at least the visitor part of it. Not recommended.
What tactical wisdom could you bring into this situation?
It’s about as hard a target as you could choose to act up at.
I worked for NDOC for 5 years, I wasn’t a guard I was a supervisor on the HVAC crew. The guards, most of them are pretty sorry asses, usually they are under funded and security is pretty lax. Not as hard a target as you say it is.
Fortunately, I have never set foot inside a prison, visitor or otherwise. I suspect that to a degree they are hardened, mostly with the intent of keeping people in. I also suspect that a lot of it is theater more than anything. A coordinated attack from the outside is likely not something they are prepared for, nor would I expect the guards to be fight really hard against an attacker, simply because the job isn’t worth it.
As “lax” as Guards are a mostly solid concrete wall, heavy steel bars and solid locks are a bit of a hard target.
Now add that there are even more concrete interior walls, bars and locks (a lot of them remotely operated) from secure guard stations.
Then maybe there *might* be an alarm system to alert the police departments and such about attacks on the prison.
You’re not the first group to attempt a “Jailbreak.” Even “Lax” guards seem to keep the vast majority of their prisoners well secured. They might even lock you INSIDE the Prision for later processing?
Historically speaking the most successful “Jailbreaks” occurred in the prisoner transfer from court room jail to prison.
But I do have a supply of jiffy pop ready just in case I hear about this event on the news.
I am not sure why your post got down voted. Have an up vote for engaging in honest discussion. These are the sort of things that need to be talked about, just generally not in the open.
Well, thank you Noways2. Down arrows are a Fakebook thing, for people without the ability to discuss or lack of balls to discuss things.
And I agree fully that an open channel like this blog isn’t the place to discuss anything of importance. Ask Rittenhouse about his social media posts being used in kangaroo court to “Prove Intent”.
I’ve not researched the Oath Keeper saga, but I suspect socialists being socialists they also used HIS social media as “Proof of intent”.
Seems odd that folks keep calling for other folks to DO something, isn’t it? Call out the able-bodied militia and all that nonsense. They COULD just shut their keyboards and go out and DO IT themselves but here we are.
Well said good Sir!
FWIW, I agree… the guards will run away very quickly, they only get 15-17 bucks an hour, most unable to carry a weapon. Probably even help you like they did in the capital building itself. Hardened target to get out of, nothing preventing people from getting in. 500 armed people outside with pickup trucks would be enough. 30 seconds to open the gates or we’re coming in shooting.
Joe, Joe, really? “Probably even help you like they did in the capital building itself”.
I expected better UNLESS you forgot the (Sarc) tag?
The Capital building was a TRAP and the facts show it did a wonderful job entrapping many folks.
I’m not even going to address the rest of the shoot ’em up fantasy. It’s NOT Star Wars where the bad guys always miss.
Pass the popcorn, I like mtn house dehydrated cheese on mine.
The guards are not paid all that well, the morale usually sucks.
I hear ya noway2, a call to muster for every able bodied man.
The Militia needs to be more like the Aryan Brotherhood. They ruled
the prisons. Nobody dared to stand up to them. Prison breaks for
them was a piece of cake.
Sorry but I’m asking for a link to a successful Aryan Brotherhood prison break.
My Google searches show how active they are inside and outside the prison system. Several Prominet leaders of that Brotherhood DIED behind Bars after decades of imprisonment.
Nothing I can find shows they ever had a successful prison break.
As Sun Tzu might be paraphrased “Don’t BS yourself nor those that trust you”.
If you happen to post some links, I’m man enough to do my Mia culpa.
There were -- plenty of them. Just have to look around:
Victor Carrafa, Barry Mills, Buddy Coleman, Wesley Gullett,
Sanderson, David Dawson and three others with him.
Just some I found.
Interesting, thank you.
A google:
SACRAMENTO, March 10 — A federal prisoner who orchestrated a violent 1993 jailbreak that left a guard seriously wounded was sentenced Friday to life in prison without the possibility of parole. U.S. District Judge Garland E. Burrell Jr. handed down the maximum sentence for Victor Carrafa, 51, a convicted felon with a decades-long rap sheet. With the aid of a longtime friend, Carrafa escaped from custody May 11, 1993.
Looks like he’s back in prison, this time a more high security one. Good job.
I wonder what would come up if I googled the rest of your list?
It’s “MEA” culpa.
LOL very important fact. Thank you for your service.
Same thing as gettin in the boxcar
ANY attempt to detain or arrest will be taken as a threat to my life and I will act accordingly, period.
I note that Indian Guy that slowly rammed the WH security gate with a Nazi flag also “Acted Accordingly” was super charged then charges quietly dropped to a misdemeanor.
I bet he’s “out on bail” by now. Unlike the Jan 6th folks, eh?
So, what does this phrase you use so often really mean in real life ™
tom finley
21 hours ago
Reply to noway2
ANY attempt to detain or arrest will be taken as a threat to my life and I will act accordingly, period.
That is simple: I do not trust my life in the detention of any law enforcement. We live in a two tiered justice system and our side has no rule of law
Dave are you Tom Finley?
He’s used this phrase several time before and it makes me curious.
As in Princess Bride “Inconceivable” curious.
I notice we jape about the Gimme Dats who fight and or run from Police and get shot. Somehow, we make that sound like a good thing?
Yet normal Americans interact with police often enough (I KNOW I DO) and act reasonably to them and go about our way.
So, what does “ANY attempt to detain or arrest will be taken as a threat to my life and I will act accordingly, period.” REALLY MEAN?
I thought after a cup of coffee to expand “Yet normal Americans interact with police often enough (I KNOW I DO) and act reasonably to them and go about our way.”
As I physically go to local selectman’s meeting and school board meetings to express my constitutional rights to peaceably assemble about grievances thing.
I often enough have police interactions as the junior level leadership feel threatened thusly.
Some of the junior level leadership folks look disappointed that the police treat me respectfully and I’m obviously not in “Fear” of their “Authority”.
Our Drag queen story sessions were canceled in my area. I was not the only one speaking against it.
At local levels voting and speaking out seems to have some positive effect.
“All That Is Needed For Evil To Succeeded, Is For Good People To Do Nothing”
― Edmund Burke, The Works of the Right Honorable
As to the comment, your trying to slander and invoke a response, it means exactly what it says, you can try and get something criminal out of my comment around the kitchen table with your LE family, have at it.
LOL as expected response.
That is exactly what I mean, thank you David.
Thank you for the Clarity of both of your replies.
why did he let himself be arrested?
That’s what I don’t understand. Of all the hundreds of people that were arrested for the J6 BS, I never heard of anyone fighting back. You would’ve thought somebody would’ve defended their families against the swat teams breaking into their homes at night. I don’t recall anything but arrests happening.
It may have to do with the dwindling numbers of persons
that form organized resistance, and therefore many of these individuals had no one to call on or contact in any way, and may not have either known or been associated directly or indirectly with other participants of the J6. That’s always a risk to not have bands of trained men in the event that civic disobedience and other challenges to misplaced authority needs to be publicly or even privately showcased (whereas the individuals, families, and perhaps estates are left with all of the legal ramifications and expenses, which will ultimately further reduce their ranks). The consequences of hyperindividualism. It seems that men have to be sequestered off together for spans of time, as well as with short-term and extensive interactions with various other men in order to be able to learn from each other and form a group identity. This observation extends to a lot of other circumstances as well.
That’s quite the mealy mouth response I’d expect. You proved my point. A lot of people like the notions of freedom and liberty, very few people actually live it and are willing to die for it. You don’t need “bands of trained men” to stand by your side. Are you not man enough to take care of your loved ones when an enemy is upon your family?
I’m a woman, and fighting to preserve America seems to be an inaccurate outlook, phrase, and is misdirecting of energies. It’s an idea that if it were actually applied would entail taking and maintaining institutions, educating the population as to their history, civics, laws, government, and governing document. Finally, I’ve expended enough of my energy in masculine pursuits such as being prior military and a war veteran. If you men want it, take it if you can.
He probably still believed in truth and justice prevailing in the court system. Unfortunately, the system has been coopted and corrupted. In the book published in 1997 by Thomas Chittum (available on archive.org) page 151 one of the big warning flags of impending civil war are race split juries that refuse to convict. While this isn’t directly pertinent to this case, I think it’s pretty obvious that the courts and prosecution, or lack thereof, in particular have become weaponized and corrupted.
That would be my guess, he is an oath keeper, most likely was trying to have faith in others who also had taken that oath,
now, we see that the oath means absolutely nothing to these pricks
Agreed.
The Justice system is dead. It is useful as a tool for the regime, not the citizens. 100% co-opted.
“He probably still believed in truth and justice prevailing in the court system.” If that were the case, he wouldn’t have believed there was a need for founding OK’s.
Any more proof needed that we are at that point our founders knew would come and thus drew up that little Bill O Rights thingy
The “need” and what must be done is eternal, and exists whether or not the BOR was ever drawn up.
At his age, eighteen years could mean a death penalty. But the TPTB knew that, didn’t they?
There is no justice in the courts of Mordor on the Potomac.
Justice in marxist amerika today:
Ha! Rochester was where I left.
Writing was on the wall 10 years ago….
Yep, almost a daily occurrence and BLASTED into your faces via Mass Media.
Almost like they want you to SEE what happens if you’re not in the “approved groups”.
When long rap sheet street thugs get flags at half mast, high holy funerals and a winning lottery ticket for their friends, family and race baiters WHAT DO YOU EXPECT will continue and get worse?
Rhodesia LOST to the urban terrorists. Schadenfreude about when the street beasts turn on their socialist “Benefactors” is a thin sour soup to we the people who were betrayed by the laws of our Country and mauled by them.
Schadenfreude is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another.
Protect your family and trusted friends. Real trouble is nearby.
Rhodesia lost by being sold out from within via sanctions. Clearly they did not lose on the battlefield. The urban terrorists merely hastened the process. Since this is the model beta tested in South Africa we can expect the same thing here in the US. 7 plus million illegals will do just that.
Sadly I have to agree Quatermain. There is one very important difference between Rhodesia and America.
When things get spicy here the powers that be aren’t interested in controlling this country. They want to destroy America and rebuild it to their technological feudalism with their own controllable serfs.
Current Americans not invited.
I welcome anybody to convince me differently.
When your enemies say they want you “population reduction ” you should believe them.
A Repeat as I WANT some thoughts about this.
We can chatter about so many things, what about the elephant in the room?
They want us DEAD and Replaced.
Thoughts?
Sadly I have to agree Quatermain. There is one very important difference between Rhodesia and America.
When things get spicy here the powers that be aren’t interested in controlling this country. They want to destroy America and rebuild it to their technological feudalism with their own controllable serfs.
Current Americans not invited.
I welcome anybody to convince me differently.
When your enemies say they want you “population reduction ” you should believe them.
Stewart Rhodes needs help!
Support his GiveSendGo
https://www.givesendgo.com/GAF5B
No thanks. Rhodes set himself up for his current predicament, playing at being a “patriot” and wholly counterposed, i.e. “at war”, with fedgov. Rhodes didn’t step on a toe-popper, he knowingly belly-flopped on it.
You have no basis to back up your comment.
Its an intersting mental exercise…. look at the movie franchise “Star Wars”. The rebels vs the empire for galactic domination! Anyone else get a very United Nations feel to that scene with the emperor declaring war on the rebels?
If you’re a part of the establishment, these people were trying to remove you from power. That would qualify as seditious conspiracy… ergo, under their laws, the conviction IS valid.
The disconnect occurs with how they achieved that power. They are attempting to tell the lie often enough, forcefully enough, that it will become the truth. Now those of us reading here KNOW it will never actually BE The Truth, but if nobody dares speak or act against it, how is it different?
Goebbels knew, Huxley knew, Orwell knew, its been written down in books many times. We are now living that novel!
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The deceptive and destructive left never neglect to use the “far right” label. As if we are some fringe element of society. Their definition of “Far Right” encompasses at least 70% of America, which makes us not “far right”, but main stream and normal. Our distance politically from the left is not demonstrative of how far right on the political scale we are, but it is demonstrative of how far left the left has become. That said, the harder they pull to the left, the harder to the right normal people will pull in response to their lies.
Actually, it’s not a far right group. It’s a perfectly centrist group founded on supporting and defending the U.S. Constitution from all enemies, foreign, and domestic. You really have to quit using fake news buzz phrases, and fake definitions.