Peaceful Separation or Civil War?

    
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Glock Grandma
Glock Grandma
3 years ago

I’m fine with a split. I will NEVER take the jab but by physical force against me and that’s only IF I’m prevented from injecting them with hot lead! It’s my body, my choice. I eat clean and work in an outdoor garden center getting plenty of exercise. I don’t own a tv, am not on social media (anymore) and don’t read newspapers-
I prefer my own company, my grandchildren, dogs and a few select others.
I don’t want or need government or medical intervention as I am a healthy adult with a sound mind. Don’t tread on me-

John Toothman
John Toothman
3 years ago

America was split with the election not the vax. And we’ve are too far apart to find a middle ground so I believe the best thing to do would be split. Drag queens teaching school, church members being arrested for having church, no, this doesn’t work for me.

tangle
tangle
3 years ago
Reply to  John Toothman

There are a lot of Trump supporters that got the jab. Heck Trump is the father of the “vaccine” and encourages everyone to get it. I am not sure the election divided all that much. The mark of the beast will.

Last edited 3 years ago by tangle
John Toothman
John Toothman
3 years ago
Reply to  tangle

True but a lot of Trump supporters felt cheated in the election and that caused a big rif but not matter. I’m not getting it and good job to all the ones that did.

jack
3 years ago
Reply to  John Toothman

Me either !!!

tangle
tangle
3 years ago

This is the government’s talking point now. The director of the NRAO used it on us a few weeks ago.

308onlooker
308onlooker
3 years ago

I don’t recognize this illegitimate government. When they come, have a plan to deal with them!

Me2
Me2
3 years ago

Nah….I’ll take Civil War. I am sick of my military waving the fag flag. Why don’t they just wave the white flag, it’s the same thing.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Me2

Only a fool seeks war when alternatives exist.

Maybe rejoin America and let the FOGs (Foreign Occupying Governments) implode?

Me2
Me2
3 years ago
Reply to  Armorican

What alternative, Einstein?

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Me2

Let’s try this again, since censorship seems to be alive and well here.
First off, never call me Einstein. He was pure, unadulterated, weapons-grade moron. His non-science set us back decades, if not centuries.

Anyway. As to what can be done, We The People have done so already. You’re welcome.

The required actions are:

  1. Correct your status as an American. When you were born, your mother (unbeknownst to her) gave you away as a foundling, and you were classified as a British Tory (Territorial U.S. Citizen), then later as a Roman slave (Municipal citizen of the United States). Both of these are foreign, non-American statuses.
  2. Declare and record your status on the Public Record. This can be done in any of the following three ways- on a “County of” Land record office (since you are a land asset, “from dust thou comest, to dust thou returnest”), the American LRO (Land Recording Office), and the American LRS (Land Recording System).
  3. Join your properly constituted American state government (Assembly) the likes of which have been functioning in all 50 states since January of this year.
  4. Step up and fill vacated Public Offices (most of which have been vacant since 1861).
  5. Enforce the Public Law and Constitutions.
  6. Enjoy your rights and guarantees.

This is an abbreviated version of the earlier post that was deleted (I guess this strikes a nerve with someone, not sure why).

If you are willing to kill and die, and see untold horror, suffering and destruction, surely a simple Declaration should not be onerous. And yes, tens of thousands of Americans are enjoying all of their rights and guarantees, as if it were 1860 (since no actual Laws have been passed since the Lawful American government was placed “on ice, in abeyance” due to the actions of those that were supposed to be our employees.

So, easy, effective, and simple.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Armorican

The negativity and resistance to this astounds me.

This is literally a lawful way to return to self-governance, works, is available now (without having to wait for others to get off their duffs), and is peaceful. This is self-rescue, and does not require a “leader” to swoop in and save you.

I suppose a demarcation must be drawn:

If you are attached to the notion of the “U.S” as it has been since 1865, and can’t let go of the desire to remain a Tory, and want to try to “change the system from within,” then this clearly isn’t for you. Godspeed and best of luck. But looking at the track record for the past, oh, 80 years, it does not look hopeful.

The “U.S. government” is a foreign “government services corporation.” It is a subcontractor, no different from a lawn care company, or a catering company. Albiet, one that has gone crazy, taken over the house of their Employers (Americans), and set themselves up as boss in the absence of their Employers. If you allow yourself to be “mis-represented and mis-identified” as one of them, you are presumed to be just another swabbie in the British Territorial government. They can boss you around, steal your property, kill you…anything goes, because you are presumed to be a “voluntary” U.S. Citizen. Oh, and to make matters more complicated, there’s two subcontractor branches (Territorial and Municipal), and they both claim you as their employee.

But, if you are an American (someone born on on of the 50 physical states, not DC or Puerto Rico), you have the option of standing as an American. Meaning, no contract with either subcontractor except The Constitution of the United States of America (Territorial) or The Constitution of the United States (Municipal). All the reams of code, statute, and “rules” can be thrown into the round file, it simply does not apply. Different Nations have different laws. As an American, you wouldn’t care about Canadian laws if you are in one of our 50 states, would you? So why concern yourself with what amounts to British “law” unless you are functioning as a “Brit in residence?!”

Be not like dumb driven cattle. This isn’t rocket science, but it does require a modicum of discernment and reading comprehension.

And if you don’t want to go down this path, that’s just fine and dandy.

But in that case, stop complaining about how mean your boss is, or whingeing how your private corporate board elections were “stolen.” You signed up for all of it. May your chains rest lightly upon you.

Mike
Mike
3 years ago

If that’s what they want, let’s vote.
No wait, that won’t work either.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“Vote” means “wish, swear, or pledge.”

You voted once, and only once when you “donated your proxy” (registered your vote). The “elections” are straw polls for the hoi polloi, the actual decisions are made by those that you gave your proxy to.

It was self-evident in 2020. You consented by giving them your proxy to “do what they thought best.” They did. You have no right to complain if you are a “registered voter.”

If “voting” could have any effect, it would be illegal.

Gryphon
Gryphon
3 years ago
Reply to  Armorican

In a Republic, you “donate your Proxy” to a small group of people who are SUPPOSED to act in your Interests. These “Representatives” have been Corrupted by the (((money power))) and no longer Act in the Interests of the (this) Nation.
For Voting to have any Effect, it has to be backed up by the Implied (if not Direct) Threat of Violence to those who fail to do their Duty as Public Officers.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Gryphon

That may be the case.

But we do not live in a Republic. -A- Republic is a singular entity, such as Rome. And we have had enough of Rome and its intrigues for the last 2000 years.

We live in 50 independent nations, each with a -republican- form of government guaranteed to us. We do not donate our proxy. We self-govern. That means getting off our asses, and doing the work of governing ourselves.

When you get lazy, and fail to govern yourselves, you are at the mercy of the “professionals.” The “experts.”

That is what happened, and it is the reason things went off the rails 160 years ago.

America is not a Democracy, but the Commonwealth (proto-communist) Territorial “United States of America” is.

America is not a Republic nor a “Plenary Oligarchy,” but the Municipal “United States (District of Columbia) is.

You have a choice, even if it is obfuscated. Living without interference is nice, and is available to everyone born here on American soil. But it can’t be done for you. Self governance is self-rescue. Nobody is coming to save you, you must do it yourself.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  Gryphon

There can be no “threat of violence,” nor indeed, any enforcement of either of the Constitutions at all by co-workers of the government employees (U.S. Citizens). This more than anything is where the lack of comprehension lies:

U.S. Citizens are on the Employee side of the service contracts known as “Constitutions.” They must obey them.

The Bill of Rights in all three Constitutions mentions “People.” “U.S Citizens” are “Persons” (incorporated, non-living entities.) Verify for yourself. If it mentions “People,” that Amendment applies to Americans. If it mentions “Persons,” that Amendment applies to incorporated entities. It’s basic reading comprehension.

They do not have recourse, nor any guarantees found in the Bills of Rights. Only the Employers do (Americans). It’s why you can yell and rail about your “Constitutional Rights” till you are blue in the face, and nothing ever comes of it. Only the Principals to Contracts may enforce them. And that’ ain’t U.S. Citizens (who have the exact same status as British Subjects). Trying to claim or enforce any “Constitutional rights” as a U.S. Citizen is, unfortunately, the definition of sedition, since you are presumed to have “volunteered” to be a British Tory (“Territorial”).

Pull your heads from your fourth point of contact. A way forward and out is being shown to you. A way that is Lawful, acknowledged as such by our Hired Help.

A way that does not require fire and blood and death.

But you have to face the reality that you have been lied to in the most fundamental ways imaginable. “It is easier to lie to a man than convince him he’s been lied to.” Have the eyes to see truth when it is staring you in the face and shaking you by the shoulders.

Facing this reality is, honestly, more difficult than facing death for many men. But improvise, adapt, and overcome, especially in the face of new and better information. It must be emphasized that this is not a “democratic” solution. There is no need for more than a handful of Americans to claim our rightful authority.

But the more Americans that come home, the easier it will be, since there is 160 years of backlogged work that needs doing. I don’t know how else to put it.

You have a choice, even if it is obfuscated. Living without interference is nice, and is available to everyone born here on American soil. But it can’t be done for you. Self governance is self-rescue.

It is true. Nobody is coming to save you-you must do it yourself.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago

America has already “peacefully separated.”

All 50 state Assemblies are in-session, and taking care of the business that has been neglected for the past 160 years.

It continues to amaze me that people are so confused as to the difference between an actual, physically-defined state, and a Federal Franchise business-entity known as a “State of State” (“State of Missouri” for example).

One is sovereign, and unincorporated (since no incorporated entity possesses sovereignty, by definition), the other is simply a franchise and subsidiary branch of whatever entity issued the charter. For the “States of States,” that charter was issued by either the Crown (Territorial) or the Roman Pontiff (Municipal).

States of States cannot “secede” any more than a Burger King franchise can “secede” from Burger King, Inc. They are subordinate and subservient to the rules and demands of their principals. Ditto for “U.S. Citizens,” who are simply “employees” (this is confirmed in 26 USC, where the definition of “employee” is “Government worker.”

But more importantly, the 50 actual states are perfectly content, and none of them are planning on allowing any sort of “secession” by our confused and unhappy employees. That’s the unfortunate truth.

The good news is, everyone that was born on an actual state is eligible to secede on an individual basis. But it requires refutation of the false claims made against you.

An American is not a U.S. Citizen. One has all the rights and guarantees owed by the Constitutions, and is a creditor of the National Debt. The other has paltry privileges, is considered an enemy combatant, and must service the National Debt with taxes on their presumed “Federal Income.”

Which one are you?

0R0
0R0
3 years ago

Fauci is lying.

  1. there is no Blue America, There is a core brainwashed academically credentialed mostly government and indirect foundation and soft corporate jobs employees and their yet to awaken poor minion underclass and students. They are concentrated in urban centers and college towns. Everything else is RED. This group is shrinking as the awakening is reaching ever more people.
  2. What you do have is Dem and RINO “elected” officials that were selected by election boards via 15 million fake ballots and 7-8 million flipped votes. There is only one likely real Dem majority state which is NY, and it seems that is now a thing of the past as candidate Adams appears to have won the vote.
  3. The Delta variant is half as deadly as the original CV19. There is no effect of unvaccinated on those vaccinated. Fauci and co.. is lying. There is no need to stop the transmission of the virus. No need to take risky vaccines that shed and make others ill. There never was and still is not any sort of CV19 crisis. Just a media and medical establishment panic.
  4. The separation of the country is between the Democrat political class bureaucrats and its paid hangers on in Academia Antifa/BLM and some corporations vs. the broad population. A split will be between the people and the illegitimate Dems and RINOs who self elect. They will be wiped out as “the people” penetrate election boards and expose their chicanery. Similar to actions against school boards that have already started.

Fauci is presenting a narrative, not facts, not analysis. And you are falling into the trap of accepting some of its basic (and baseless) presumptions. Come 2022, assuming the election reforms instituted hold, there will be a major loss of Dem seats in both houses of congress and governorship and other statewide offices, Mayoral and city council races.
Add to that the obviously known Chinese agents in Federal and state governments and in the national and state Dem and Rep committees +media being prosecuted for sedition and treason regardless of who sits in the White House..Pompeo warned governors their China bribery is known, the DIA publication of their having the Chief of China’s counterintelligence and a treasure of data including the database of bribes against myriad officials in government, politics and corporations means that a covert process of tribunals secret grand juries ans indictments has to be taking place to remove these from their positions and try them.

0R0
0R0
3 years ago
Reply to  Wes Rhinier

There is community activism to remove election boards and secretaries of state acting outside their authority and pressure on state legislators to stomp the self election process out. Even if it requires removal of all existing county/precinct operations and starting over with a blank slate of mechanically structured election processes with no election official discretion of any sort, where ALL counting and tabulation actions are done by workers and observers of all parties on the ballot assigned RANDOMLY.
The military has manuals developed for Iraq and Afghan elections. Just put that into state law.
Activism has to intrude into election boards by mass presence and selection and pressure on legislators and local state committees and national RNC to remove the deadwood. Disabling the use of election machines by hook or by crook being one crucial step.

NOG
NOG
3 years ago

Sewer will never allow a split. They don’t have what the red states have. Energy, labor and raw materials. Their money is fake. A split would leave them with nothing but each other. They will be willing to destroy this country before they “allow” freedom. I expect them to back off and bide their time for another shot of Mordor.

Armorican
Armorican
3 years ago
Reply to  NOG

As I’ve pointed out, there can’t, and won’t be a split.

Franchises can’t split from their parent corporation. States of States are “inchoate” entities (imaginary), and subsidiaries of the two subcontractor branches (Territorial and Municipal). The first is styled “State of Missouri,” the second “STATE OF MISSOURI”. Of late, you may see a third style in the form of “MISSOURI”, this is a U.N. Corporation version of the franchise. So, one more layer of fakery and fraud.

This goes for “Counties” as well. Unfortunate as it is, “U.S. Citizens” in Oregon cannot “vote” for any Oregon counties to “split off” and join Idaho. Same for Colorado counties and Wyoming. The first reason being, employers have no standing to make decisions regarding physical borders. The second reason, re-drawing the borders would require a Continental Congress, and an agreement between delegates from both Idaho and Oregon, and then a general election of the remaining 48 state delegations to approve it. Those unhappy “U.S. Citizens” in Oregon and Wyoming would be better served correcting their status and joining their respective State Assemblies. They would have far more say, and the malarkey and nonsense imposed by the FOGs would cease.

The 50 physical state Assemblies are in-session. The Fiduciaries and Principals are the ones holding the power, and the “U.S. Citizens” that are functioning as “residents” have no say at all in what the actual states may or may not do.

There are no “red states” or “blue states.” That is a Red Herring. There are only 50 states, each with a Republican form of government.

This whole notion of “secession” is a psy-op, promulgated by the same Brit foreign agents that have been stirring up trouble here for 160 years.

We aren’t ceding a single spoonful of dirt to any Communist/Leftist miscreants. It all belongs to us, our forefathers shed blood by the gallon to secure it, and that’s the end, full stop, period.

Me2
Me2
3 years ago
Reply to  Armorican

Where did you come from?? We have been waiting for someone with all the answers to our questions. Oh thank you for blessing us with all your bullshit.

Truth in Tension
Truth in Tension
3 years ago
Reply to  Me2

It is interesting that you attack Armorican, when you have no knowledge as to whether the information that he has provided is correct or not.
I do know that the the Queen’s Pilgrims Society, with it’s US members, is extremely influential with regards to the US Federal Government, and many state governments as well.
What I find disconcerting, with many of the people who post comments on this site, is their immediate attack on the messenger, without, first, thoroughly researching the information provided by the messenger. Research does not mean looking at just one web page. It is apparent that Armorican has done significant research regarding the information he has provided to us. The question becomes; is his information accurate?
Of course, it is always easier to attack the messenger, then it is to learn about a new approach or subject. For Thomas Jefferson to write The Declaration of Independence required an unbelievable amount of research, and learning prior to the creation of the actual document, but, the documnet in many ways changed the history of mankind.
As far as I know, Thomas Jefferson never picked up a rifle, and he never fired a shot during the war of Independence from Britain, however, he used his thinking mind to defeat the British. And his thinking mind opened the door for Americans to obtain what mankind had never before experienced, and this was Freedom. And, yes, there were battles, and bloodshed that was also required which should not be overlooked, but, Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence was the roadmap for Americans and mankind to grasp Freedom that rocked the world.
Could any of the people who post comments on this site create such a document? Intuitively, we know the answer is a resounding “No”.
I am not sure if Armorican’s information is correct, however, I believe it is prudent to learn more about it.

Dana Henry
Dana Henry
3 years ago

The original Coronavirus has a 99.9% recovery rate; even for old farts. The jab comes with a multitude of possible side effects especially deleterious for same. Everyone knew the plan was for the release of a second virus. They telegraphed their punch.
I’ll take my chances with natural antibodies. If ‘they’ somehow forced the jab against my will I’d consider that an assault. I would get even. It’s my nature. Can’t be more plain.