Property Taxes

I agree that property taxes should be abolished. The founding fathers never intended the consequences associated with property taxes that are in place today. We have no recourse if taxes are not paid to stop our property from being sold by the “state”. We have no input on how the taxes are spent or allocated to “friends”. The mechanism to appeal property tax assessments is predetermined: your appeal is denied.

You may say that is not true: people have a say in how the taxes are spent. Not really when the covers are pulled back. When was the last time you saw your property taxes reduced or any program cut. Our schools are cesspools of propaganda with no accountability for the quality of our children’s education.

If property taxes are cut, who suffers? Schools are just slush funds: $17,000 per student vs. $1000 per student that is home schooled. From Grok concerning the literacy level of US high school graduates:

  • 19% (roughly 760,000) reflects graduates with very low literacy, per the 2015 study—think reading below 5th-grade level.
  • 37% (about 1.5 million) captures those below NAEP’s “Basic” threshold, per 2019 data—functional but not proficient.
  • Less than 5% (under 200,000) is a conservative estimate for total illiteracy, based on expert analysis.

Roads will suffer. Living in Cherokee County, NC, I cannot see how much worse roads can get: we have potholes but we also have entire sections of secondary roads that have to be removed and rebuilt.

What is the solution? There are options but the first step is to dismantle the corrupted system that is currently in place.

David DeGerolamo

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Al Buckner
Al Buckner
1 month ago

I have homes in Michigan(tax to death) and VA. My property taxes in Michigan are five times more than Va home. Price difference is about $35,000(Va). In Michigan we pay 77% for out of city fees. We pay for jails, libraries and county expenses that we never use. In Va my property taxes are cheap cause they have a personal property tax on vehicles and machinery. This is cause so much mountain area that taxes on it has to be low or most farmers and normal citizens couldn’t afford to own. My insurance on Va home is cheaper than the taxes, crazy I know. But I will take it.
I agree taxes seem to never decline or go away. It’s a habit like for cities, counties or states have like a drug addiction.

DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
1 month ago

I do not believe property taxes need to be completely abolished. I do not have time to plow the snow off of my streets here in my city. I do not wish to repair potholes. I do not wish to stand guard from dusk to dawn with a loaded firearm over my property or have a water pumper in my yard to fight fires. BEYOND THAT (!), all of the fluff, grift, and wealth confiscation (read levies for government schools), libraries, public parks, need to be eliminated from my property tax bill. Am I right or wrong?

Michael
Michael
1 month ago

Well-founded Public Libraries (not the commie-Gay infested mess today) was part and parcel of American Greatness for most of the 20th Century.

Our founding fathers thought them important enough to spend their own money on them.

SNIP On 01 July 1731, Franklin and a group of members from the Junto, a philosophical association, drew up “Articles of Agreement” to form a library. The Junto was interested in a wide range of ideas, from economics to solving social woes to politics to science.

Great men thought it worth creating to improve American learning

SNIP Andrew Carnegie was once the richest man in the world. Coming as a dirt poor kid from Scotland to the U.S., by the 1880s he’d built an empire in steel — and then gave it all away: $60 million to fund a system of 1,689 public libraries across the country.

And so on. I personally used the public library system and the intra library loan system often to study and build homesteading systems.

The Internet is a substitute but not a replacement for books.

Taxes for services rendered is worthwhile. As you said Fire Department, Police and so on.

AS LONG AS Community INPUT is Required.

We GOT this MESS from being too lazy to keep our Public Services in the Public EYE.

I DO support NOT making fixed income seniors losing their homes from ever growing taxes. As long as they are Living in them (not in a home and their kids renting it or such) THEY should be done with property taxes.

DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael

Agreed, Michael. I would call your attention, however, to the current struggle going on in Kootenai County, ID. The Community Library Network which covers Post Falls, Hayden, Dalton Gardens, and Saint Maries was rocked by a scandal a few years ago. It was discovered by concerned parents the then-library board “wimmen majority” were allowing minors to access materials describing gay sex, transgender themes and other degenerate titles suitable to the San Franciso Barnes & Noble.
These Harpies were voted out and a slate of conservative, Christian board members were put in. The local forces of darkness have not given up on their attacks on these people. It’s even worse over in Inslee Land, where the libraries are used for Drag Queen Story Hour and parent protestors are arrested for standing on the sidewalk across from the library.
People have a lot of misconceptions about North Idaho. We are in a fight for our political lives here at the moment. There is a very vocal and well-funded group of Red-Diaper-Doper-Babies, LGBTQ+ goblins, and Marxist Infanticide Party operatives doing their best to corrupt the young. And they are trying to use public libraries. Stay tuned.

Michael
Michael
1 month ago

As you know I don’t suggest violence online.

However, knowing the problem and not doing anything about it seems unwise.

Lots of woods around your area. I know because decades ago I lived in Sandpoint.

Our Boston Drag Queens got canceled as well as the Principle, the librarian and some teachers found employment elsewhere.

I understand replacing tires quite expensive.

More folks need to be active in their public schooling and libraries. Children are to be cherished and protected.

Not preyed upon by “Minor Attracted Peoples”.

If a teacher is offended that they cannot discuss sexuality with pre-teens they are not teachers, they are GROOMERS.

The other Joe Blow
The other Joe Blow
1 month ago

If they tax it, you don’t own it. At this point in my life, I would advocate for higher sales taxes to cover any shortfall. BUT, there needs to be a total reset on how the Fed, state and local .govs are throwing away your money.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
1 month ago

Abolish the entire GULAG of government monopoly day prisons that masquerade as schools. Put the ENTIRE responsibility of education back in the hands of parents and a competitive marketplace of service providers that includes voluntary charities, business-sponsored schools, home schools, co-op schools, online schools, and whatever other creative solutions the market provides. As for local government operations, free market solutions again with people purchasing the services they ACTUALLY WANT.

AJR973
AJR973
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLiberty

Outstanding suggestions. Government has failed.

Joe Blow
Joe Blow
1 month ago

That is the solution. Dismantle it and start over.

Michael
Michael
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe Blow

Joe when your neighbor’s house is ablaze and it’s spreading towards your own home.

Do you want a well-qualified Fire Department involved?

Do you think that training and equipment is FREE?

Don’t throw the baby out in the wash water.

Truth in Tension
Truth in Tension
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael

Rubbish!, I live in rural East Texas. We have an all volunteer fire department that works very well. We do not have public anything. We have septic tanks for sewer and coop water service and coop electric service and we do not have a police department. We have a county Sheriff’s department that is approximately 45 minutes away and every once in a while a deputy sheriff actually drives through our small village (town). Our neighbors watch each other’s houses. Of course, being East Texas, we are independent and we exercise the 2nd amendment. With that said, the property taxes in East Texas are extremely high, and is really a form of legal extortion. I am comparing taxes in my county in East Texas to similar properties in California, Oklahoma and Tennessee. In fact, the property tax extortion racket here is so extreme, that it would make the jewish mafia blush. The main driver for the extreme property tax here in East Texas is the big spending school district. Of course, the school district does not like to talk about the fact that the administrators and teachers are the highest paid people in the county. No matter how much they are paid it is never enough for the pampered class. Now they are demanding 4 day work weeks for the same salary. Also, they do not like to talk about the fact that their high school graduate’s college admission exams have declined every year for decades. Everything that government does (including school districts) is based on corruption. In other words -- low effort, high reward and no accountability. Who is $ John Galt?

Michael
Michael
1 month ago

Truth maybe you should go over to the Fire Department and ASK them how they got their equipment and training.

Fire trucks are not cheap. Nor is the basic equipment needed to protect your volunteer firemen.

Your just free riding on earlier folks DONATIONS to them. Neighbors with money that realized they and their neighbors NEEDED effective firefighting.

Eventually that Fire Truck will need replacement.

The COOP is also FUNDED by you and your neighbors. So your taxes are just a bit more personal.

The rest of your rant is not what I even brought up.

Truth in Tension
Truth in Tension
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael

The portion of property taxes that goes to fund the volunteer fire department is very small. The school district is by far the largest portion of the county property tax. There are better ways to fund county and city services besides the extortion of residential property owners. Also, many of the services can be done for lower cost by private business. Who is $ John Galt?

Michael
Michael
1 month ago

Truth your quote from above ” Rubbish!, I live in rural East Texas. We have an all volunteer fire department that works very well. We do not have public anything.”

NOW you have taxes supporting the fire department. THAT dear friend IS PUBLIC support.

Please make up your mind.

I *STILL* didn’t say a damn thing about school taxes.

I DO however agree that schools NEED the PUBLIC to be INVOLVED. School CHOICE is an excellent way to ensure that private (and or home) schooling is supported. NH has been fighting for school vouchers for that reason.

We TOLERATED so much for so long and HERE WE ARE.

Parents need to BE PARENTS. Schools are not to become Parents.

Citizenship requires WORK from each of us. The “Free Ride” and letting the “Experts” do their thing created this mess.

Prove me wrong. My table is right here with a pot of coffee ready.

The other Joe Blow
The other Joe Blow
1 month ago

It’s a state issue. No better here on the west side of the state.

Truth in Tension
Truth in Tension
1 month ago

I agree. I used to own property in El Paso, Tx. The property taxes were outrageous. Who is $ John Galt?

Lori G
Lori G
1 month ago

Property tax is rent. Pay for roads by car registration tax, sales tax, etc., but don’t charge landowners rent for something they already own.

The other Joe Blow
The other Joe Blow
1 month ago
Reply to  Lori G

Amen.

Keith
Keith
1 month ago

Property taxes as well as the rest of the taxes were a consequence of the fiat money system. The taxes are a relief valve for the implementation of money out of nothing. Without the taxes the fake money system would have crashed long ago. The banksters knew what they were doing. They will own it all when they’re done.

Highlander
Highlander
1 month ago

The only time I saw my property taxes reduced I got very suspicious. After a quick search it turned out the State was planning to build a Super 2 Highway through the area. They must pay 125% of assessed value so those assessed values had to come down and fast! I also noticed, after 6 years the taxes jumped up and, low and behold! The highway project was canceled…

thexrayboy
thexrayboy
1 month ago

Ending property tax is half the battle. Ending the wasteful spending that property taxes have historically allowed is the tougher half.