Update 5/14/2012 – Civil War in US Before November Elections? Obama Gets What Obama Wants
In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.
“We have problems . . . The federal government is preparing for civil uprising,” he added, “so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising.”
Hagmann goes on to say that his sources tell him the concerns of the DHS stem from a collapse of the U.S. dollar and the hyperinflation a collapse in the value of the world’s primary reserve currency implies to a nation of 311 million Americans, who, for the significant portion of the population, is armed.
Uprisings in Greece is, indeed, a problem, but an uprising of armed Americans becomes a matter of serious national security, a point addressed in a recent report by the Pentagon and highlighted as a vulnerability and threat to the U.S. during war-game exercises at the Department of Defense last year, according to one of the DoD’s war-game participants, Jim Rickards, author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis.
Through his sources, Hagmann confirmed Rickards’ ongoing thesis of a fear of a U.S. dollar collapse at the hands of the Chinese (U.S. treasury bond holders of approximately $1 trillion) and, possibly, the Russians (threatening to launch a gold-backed ruble as an attractive alternative to the U.S. dollar) in retaliation for aggressive U.S. foreign policy initiatives against China’s and Russia’s strategic allies Iran and Syria.
“The one source that we have I’ve known since 1979,” Hagmann continued. “He started out as a patrol officer and currently he is now working for a federal agency under the umbrella of the Department of Homeland Security; he’s in a position to know what policies are being initiated, what policies are being planned at this point, and he’s telling us right now—look, what you’re seeing is just the tip of the iceberg. We are preparing, we, meaning the government, we are preparing for a massive civil war in this country.”
“There’s no hyperbole here,” he added, echoing Trends Research Institute’s Founder Gerald Celente’s forecast of last year. Celente expects a collapse of the U.S. dollar and riots in America some time this year.
Since Celente’s ‘Civil War’ prediction of last year, executive orders NDAA and National Defense Resources Preparedness were signed into law by President Obama, which are both politically damaging actions taken by a sitting president.
And most recently, requests made by the DHS for the procurement of 450 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition only fuels speculation of an upcoming tragic event expected on American soil.
These major events, as shocking to the American people as they are, have taken place during an election year.
Escalating preparatory activities by the executive branch and DHS throughout the last decade—from the Patriot Act, to countless executive orders drafted to suspend (or strip) American civil liberties “are just the beginning” of the nightmare to come, Hagmann said.
He added, “It’s going to get so much worse toward the election, and I’m not even sure we’re going to have an election in this country. It’s going to be that bad, and this, as well, is coming from my sources. But one source in particular said, ‘look, you don’t understand how bad it is.’ This stuff is real; these people, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), they are ready to fight the American people.”
TruNews‘ Wiles asked Hagmann: who does the DHS expect to fight, in particular? Another North versus South, the Yankees against the Confederates? Hagmann stated the situation is far worse than a struggle between any two factions within the U.S.; it’s an anticipated nationwide emergency event centered on the nation’s currency.
“What they [DHS] are expecting, and again, this is according to my sources, what they’re expecting is the un-sustainability of the American dollar,” Hagmann said. “And we know for a fact that we can no longer service our debt. There’s going to be a period of hyperinflation . . . the dollar will be worthless . . . The economic collapse will be so severe, people won’t be ready for this.”
Sources: Full TruNews interview, May 2, 2012. http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2095/785/We_Are_Preparing_For_Massive_Civil_War,_Says_DHS_Informant.html
http://dailyteaparty.com/2010/12/16/open-warfare-in-greek-cities-intensifies-as-austerity-kicks-in-is-america-next-warning-graphic-images-video/
I’ve never been a fatalist but more of a realist, and the two are starting to come together as one.
Just a thought here: something that would be great for all readers -- an ongoing perma-link to items needed. Water purification, seed saving, protection, bug out bags, etc…
Tom Chittum, in his 1996 book, Civil War II, The Coming Break up of America, has been almost right on in his forecasts as to what will precipitate the next civil war. Almost everything he warned about has developed almost exactly as he said it would.
While the economic collapse will likely be the starting gun for massive armed civil conflict, the conflict itself will change directions once it begins.
While the initial civilian response will probably be against the government, the situation will eventually evolve into divisions of race, ethnicity, and politics, with the police and military breaking along the same lines, so any government response will be short lived, especially in the face of an overwhelming armed force of citizens.
Black and Hispanic street gangs will enter the fray in support of their tribesmen, as will an explosion of white militias that will number into the tens of millions.
Let me just say that I have ABSOLUTELY no vested interest in Chittum’s book but if you want to see what is in store for us in the near future, I think Chittum’s book can be seen online as an e-book. I’m recommending it, because it’s the most accurate description I’ve read of what is going to happen in the very near future.
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It does not take a genius to figure out why this is all happening. Upon reflection, it was inevitable, because why, well it’s all told in the book of Revelation, the kings of THIS world are beholdened to the powers of this world, not that of God’s and his commandments. It is the time of the separation of the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. I suggest to all Patriots and their infidel friends, family members, neighbors and religious affiliations, get prepared. I can not think for one minute why it is that I should give up my GOD given Rights because there are those who wish to enslave the entire world, including these United States of America. “A Patriot is a person in the business of saving his Country from its government” don’t be a by stander, get prepared, know your friends, help others around you with like minds get prepared if necessary, but get it done and fast, if you haven’t already. My money is on the Patriots, not the teet suckers and their lies and deceit. Semper Fi
The largest armed and dangerous army is the American citizen. I would not want to be in politics when the SHTF. As an Oath Keeper’s promise I will not point my weapon towards my fellow countryman . As an army the US is unbeatable however in civil war no soldier will obey an unlawful order and kill his neighbor. So be prepared to face the foreign soldier, but he will lose because the fight will not be head on. The only way to beat a superior force is to undermine and shoot and runaway to shoot again!
We have never had this bad of a problem until this a$$hole obummer got into office. Be prepared, be very prepared once it starts there is no turning back
Kevin,
I am a Soldier, have been now for 20 years. As a soldier you must see that the Obama Bots have infiltrated our ranks and if it comes to it there will be some that follow orders to fire on their fellow Americans. What you have to ask yourself is when the time comes, if it comes, what are you going to do?
Hope I have bigger bullets & plenty of them
I wonder if this is why ‘the evil one’ has kept so many American soldiers deployed oversees and has been decimating the senior military officers on trumped up allegations……while at the same time inviting Russian soldiers onto American soil. Meanwhile, the FEMA camps are being prepared for the followers and desperate.
There are lots of us out here and if this is our future, we should face it like Marines face everything and have no fear. If this is the future, all we as citizens can do is be prepared and if it comes down to a fight, we will prevail. You know, this country isn’t the country we have fought for. This is the country of the left -wing brain dead Obama fans. Maybe it’s time to tear it up and rebuild it as it used to be, the United States of America.
Semper Fi my brother.
You’re right, Billy… we fought as proud Americans for what we believed in in 1968, on the other side of the world. Defending our homeland ??? Blood will run in the gutters like water.
And America will get the cleansing it has needed for decades.
Semper Fi
First MarDiv, RVN, 1968
Thank you Ret. Marine. I absolutely agree with you. Yes, read the book of Revelation. It is coming for sure! I will tell you for sure that I am not one to stand by and let things happen. I am a person of action. I have been criticized much for that lately on my stance against gay marriage that was just voted on in North Carolina but I voted because of what God said in his word about marraige being between one man and one women. You see the government wanting to take control of every aspect of our life. I am trusting in the Lord and getting ready for his glorious appearing!!
I couldn’t agree more Charlotte! I have been feeling deep in my soul for a few years now that 2012 was the critical turning point in our life time.
I pray that God The Father will tell Jesus Christ His Son, “It’s time, go get my children” & that we will be out of here!!!!!! I believe that this will happen in my lifetime, but if not, I am standing to the end on my faith & trust in Jesus Christ knowing that when I draw my last breath on earth, I will instantly be in the presence of my faithful beloved King!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As the scriptures say, “To be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord”! What a glorious thought!!!!
I salute you and all our men and women in uniform. I just hope that most soldiers, past and present, feel the same as you do.
Semper Fi from another Jar Head. We are ready here, but I know many neighbors are not. These are the same ones who have never been ready-or willing to get ready-for anything. Mostly libs.
You that are not faint-hearted need to partner with a Veteran.
And he loved Big Brother.
Myself, and everyone else I know have been prepared for years. We’ve been waiting, we want this, there are some wrongs that need righted.
Americans are not fools -- millions of families across the country are preparing for an economic collapse. If the unelected bureaucrats of DHS/FEMA and other agencies think that they are going to burn our Constitution in the fire of Martial Law at such a moment, they are in for a surprise.
I believe that, regardless of how bad things get economically, much of America will manage to maintain a peaceful, if difficult existence. The major metropolises will surely go into chaos, as I have previously presented https://ncrenegade.com//uncategorized/what-is-coming-and-what-we-must-do/, but rural America will survive with dignity through the hardships to come. If, however, the government attempts to herd us all into FEMA camps, then we are, indeed, headed for a massive civil war, and it will be a just war against tyrrany from our own government. The mettle of the America People is, once again, to be tested, but I do not believe that it will be found wanting.
IT IS ALL A BIG FARCE!
Current financial rules and regulations”
leave it complicated and arcane. As we learn from every other thing the government produces when it touches finance and taxes, it is a master of complexity. It keeps more people employed, promotes more workers, promotes the education industry to get paid to teach the complexity, promotes the book industry to document the complexity and keeps regulators big, therefore it is an indirect stimulus to the economy and adds to the treasury holdings of foreign governments to appease foreign powers that the US will comply.
I do not understand how about just raise the debt ceiling to 100 trillion dollars, secretly hand out 1 million to everyone who has a valid social security number and watch the economic collapse, at least it wouldnt be this slow burn we are going through now. America started off with a national debt of 689 million back in the beginning, it has gotten worse every year except a few during the Clinton years. Guess who was in charge of congress during those years? REPUBLICANS. Vote ObamaNation out next year. I will not vote for this class warfare idiot ever. We got the “not voting for a minority for President monkey” off our backs. Deport all Illegals, Define marriage as between one man, one woman. Abolish the Federal Reserve, and do a complete audit. Isolate our internet in the United States so we cannot access outside of this countries vendors, or illegal bomb making sites, porn site…etc. subversive blogs. Abolish all unions. Clean out all of government from the local sherif to the highest authority including this terrible president. Keep only the original Constitution, and original 10 bill of rights, and no more. Simplify the tax code. Eliminate the waiter wage. Re-establish states rights that make sense with regards to abortion, illegal immigration. Build a valid border to the south and north, and bring every single troop home to protect our lands along the coast. Offer to move the whole of Isreal’s population to the United States if they really are our allies. 16 trillion in debt compared to a 54 billion surplus in Isreal. Stop importing from other countries.
Right on !
My government sent me to KOREA in 1951 to fight communism and socialism but now they are asking me to live under it/// I say HELL NO: and i will fight them with my DYING breath. Bring it on you bunch off TRAITORS. I held dying men in my arms who would have felt the same way if they had lived. I know they are looking DOWN now and saying, WHY!!!!!!!!
WHY!!!!!!!!!
68K Muslims and many many more chinese will be the ones who kill us. They have been crossing the Mexico border like ants, yet Homeland Security does nothing, now we know why. I cannot believe that the people who could intervene have not taken one step to avert what is coming. None of them have upheld the Constitution.
Wellll, I am in SW Florida and am planning on moving to Birmingham the end of June. My son is there, I just hope I can get there. God Bless All, I mean everyone, doesn’t matter what color or ethnicity………….we all will suffer.
I fear that the president may lose and refuse to leave office, but I doubt the financial collapse worries so soon. Usually they are scare tactics to hit you up for money, to buy a book, or to get you to buy gold. It’s good to be prepared. Have some gold on hand, some extra food, and extra clean water, but I doubt if it’s going to be dog eat dog, at least at first. So be prepared to share with neighbors who aren’t as well prepared. Hopefully we will have a warning crisis, of limited duration, that will wake us all up to the fact that we should be prepared to take care of ourselves for up to a month without government help. And before you conservatives wig out, by government help I mean clean water, sewer, trash removal, and so on.
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I lived next to a man who worked for the Commandant of the Marine Corps in the 1970’s
He told me if the time comes when the Marine Corp realizes that the Federal Government has shredded the Constitution-the Marine Corp would lead the way in over throwing the Government in Washington-they swore allegiance to the Constitution NOT the Government !!!
Semper Fi
If that were true, they would have already overthrown the government. Eric Holder’s actions with Fast&Furious, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Arizona immigration and the New Black panthers are all unConstitutional. MF Global’s seizure of private property and the transfer of GM bonds from bondholders to the unions shows that we no longer have security for our property. The president announces at the state of the union that he will override Congress with executive orders. Need I continue? Resist. Now.
I hope and pray this is true , what bothers me , if we have Republicans in office who oppose this, why hasn’t Obama been dealt with ? Doesn’t someone have the power to arrest him and his minions ? Can’t someone stop this from happening ? What is needed is a 10 million man march on Washington D.C. People belong in jail.
It has already gone too far to stop. This is serious folks. We are in DEEP shit! I could say that the braindeads have won. But as a nation we have become too complacent and have been letting them get away with their BS just too long. I saw it coming a long time ago with LBJ’s “Great Society” bullshit!! This crap is the result of that altruistic philosophy. I’m glad I’m as old as I am. Ayn Rand explained all this over 50 yrs. ago in “Atlas Shrugged”! Atlas IS now shrugging.
Atlas in not shrugging -- Atlas is slouching in death-throes after being shot in the back by communists and other shadowy wealth-redistributors. Is there a doctor in the house?!?
Obama has risen like the morning star to be the Messiah of Mediocrity, and much of the world has adopted his religion of self-deception convenient lies. Worse, mediocrity’s most visible face is one of profound and abject apathy; man’s love for man has indeed grown cold.
What now comes will be an apocalyptic struggle for the future control of our world, and we have been warned that it is always darkest just before the dawn. Prepare, watch, and be sober… and keep your powder dry.
III for the fight,
LT
~Those who discard Liberty, do so at their own peril!
I have long suspected this . This would explain one of mr. O’s Executive Order ( I forget the number ) . It allows foreign troops to come in and search our homes. They can now assasinate us. They can now detain us without due process and wisk us away. They are just waiting for the riots and the shiiit will hit the fan. Now to any logical person , there is a reason why these things have been put into place but to the sheeple , brainwashed , braindead Obamaites it is a a “conspiracy.” Prepare , it’s coming before election day.
Obama is nothing -- he is the worm on the hook. The real question is who holds the fishing rod? Because whoever holds the fishing rod, is also captain of the fishing trawler which is, by bureaucratic net-hauling, taking all the good things in our country and stealing them from us. It is systematic, and not attributable to one man, even the President. Don’t take this the wrong way, I am not defending Obama/Soetoro, but the fact is that he was bought, paid for, and put on display for us to love, and then to hate. I’m not falling for it -- I want the monsters that really orchestrated this, and I am not alone.
After this bum took office I purchased a weapon and it’s locked and loaded. I might be old (73) but I can still defend myself and my family and WILL DO SO. All the disgusting left wing pansies (Reid, Piglosi, Barney Frank and the likes of the Schummers) will be running and hiding in their government supplied bunkers unless we apprehend them first. Cut the head off the snake…. They are responsible for this mess and they will not escape retribution. The lazy Democraps have been in control since 2007 and have accomplished absolutely nothing. They had both houses until 2010 and still have the senate which shoots down every Republican bill proposal that passed in the house. obozo has lost the Catholic vote, the elderly vote, potentially the Jewish vote. Not much left after that except the blacks, Illegal Mexicans, George Clooney, Sean Penn, Matt Damon, Susan Saradan and the butt wipes of Occupy Wall Street. obozo is evil personified. BRING IT ON !!!!!!
All of this has been planned a long time as the world order. The American people have the biggest army in the world and this country is so vast no army could control it. NATO troops don’t have a chance as the hit and run over and over will win in the long run. Everyone needs to have food water and fuel for the long haul. As John Wayne always said lock and load.
I am asking congress to their job of our checks and balance system of govt and pass legislation that will require the congress to approve a presidents order for martial law before it can be declared. To leave it to one person to have the power to suspend the constitution and our bill of rights is insane.
I have never been so frightened in my life--I am 76 and am planning to live to 100.
Now I am not so sure I will make it to that age.
Do you folks know there about 600 concentration already built and operational across
the country. YIKES!!!!!!! Who will end up in these camps--you, me, or our children?
What the hell is going on? Can someone comment on this?
What is going on is the culmination of a 100-year plan by western-world communists. They knew they could never take America by force, so they undertook to subvert it, both from within and from without. The Great Battle is about to commence…and only one side can remain when it is done. Either collectivist slavery must be permanently and completely abolished from the world of men, or Liberty and Capitalism must go into that perpetual night; they cannot coexist. Personally, I will fight with every breath, every word, and every bullet I have against the enemies of Liberty, for I believe that Liberty is the dignified state of man prescribed by God. Anything less is total and abject evil, worthy of absolute destruction.
III for the fight,
LT
~Those who would discard Liberty, do so at their own peril!
“I swear to uphold the Constitution and to protect it from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, without reservation or deception. I will obey all lawful orders from my superior officers and to kill all voluntary communists wherever they may be found.”
How it will soon read.
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Washington
Uhm, international banks and corporations are the secret entities that dictate power. They cause governments to wage wars and create policy for their gain. History shows us this, they make slaves of men with their financial weapons of mass destruction. Dividing and conquering countries for financial gain, natural resources, why use guns when you can just destroy their currency, stroke of a pen. This is who obama works for.
i hope i have not waited too late, i am now going into helpless/panic mode and dont really know where to start
a good start:
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1576-true-defiance-i-challenge-you-to-survive-the-coming-collapse