Is it wrong to hope for a collapse? A collapse might be the only way to fix it, but it is risky.

    
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Aime Hart
Aime Hart
2 years ago

You know, a wise man said “know your enemy”. We of course, all think we do but then I found this article today.
It was not a gut kick but it did strengthen my back bone, which is something many Americans have gone soft on.
Remember the Council on Foreign Relations? I don’t know if they still exist but they were a very hot item in the 70’s and 80’s. Think Big and little Bushies,Clinton, Cheney, Richard Armitage. I can see their faces in my head, beady eyed, greedy, powerful males.
New take on old enemy. Knowledge is also a weapon.
Schwab Family Values (unlimitedhangout.com)

William
William
2 years ago
Reply to  Aime Hart

The South must secede and form up a good strong “well regulated militia “.

OPM
OPM
2 years ago

Our local business group (which includes vets) had this discussion recently pondering the question: If we fight what are we fighting for? …to keep and protect this corrupt, failing criminal system? To prolong the inevitable? No, we all agreed when we do make a stand its for our children and grandchildren so they wont worry about a government full of pedophiles, adrenochrome sucking vampires, child sex slave markets and corruption. All agreed we regret this is happening now, at this time in history and not 20-30 years ago when our knees were stronger, shoulders didn’t creak, backs were straighter and eyesight like a hawk but this will not deter us…better to die standing a Free Man and Patriot than on Bent Knees Begging for Gruel! We’ve been in worse situations in Shitholes across the globe, in dire circumstance where survival was impossible, places with coordinates not on the map, so this isnt unknown to us, its just that we know this is home and its our brothers and sisters that we prepare to fight…God Bless Us Who Stand Up and May Your Ka-Bar Be Sharp and Your Magazines Full! Semper-Fi Patriots…Semper Fi!

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  OPM

GREAT words brother Semper Fi.

Roth Harbard
2 years ago

Freedom requires taking responsibility for one’s own self. Americans have become comfortable, prosperous, and debauched. Entitled. As a people, we have come to believe that every poor choice we make is the fault of someone else. A collapse would go a long way toward solving this problem. Instead of being protected from our poor choices, we would have to deal with them.

Otis D
Otis D
2 years ago
Reply to  Roth Harbard

it will separate the wheat from the chaff

Citizen Joe
Citizen Joe
2 years ago

Bears, feral dog packs, two legged critters. I wasn’t messing with you when I asked if you were packing the other day. Family of 5 got murdered by an escaped convict a few weeks ago. In a real nice residential area. You never know. On topic, they have to break the system for us to have a chance to get rid of them. We never had any control over what happened in this country. Ever. Representative government is an illusion. And it’s going to be real bad. I don’t think many people have a clue as to how bad it’ll get. Total collapse. If we live for 2 to 4 weeks, after the collapse, we have a chance. We may have outlived a lot of the bad guys by then. Might take longer.

Revonah61
Revonah61
2 years ago
Reply to  Citizen Joe

Major Jeff Prather says to ALWAYS be armed. Even out mowing the lawn, in case a escapee happens to come along. So true! Just think about the astronomical numbers of thugs/scum bags/Nazis coming across our southern border. After many months/years, I have to assume they’re everywhere now, as we’ve seen the airplane loads of them sent to various feral city airports. This thanks to our “leaders”.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Revonah61

Jeffrey Prather is hard at work, great patriot.

Dana Henry
Dana Henry
2 years ago

There were a couple of OK’s I used to follow back when OKs first started. The logic of the first guy was it’s very possible the real re-set would come after a grid down. That could be a blessing in disguise. Every fed agency would then be on the same playing field as the average citizen. No comms, no surveillance no nothing. It would be a fresh start.
The second guy surprised me with a post he made. He named names which I didn’t think a good idea. He said if/when the day came this country was pitched in a civil war no one would be safe, exempt, or be a non-combatant. The Speaker’s children, parents, siblings, extended friends, and family would disappear. Every lib would be a target. It would be a very unCivil War.
I am ready for things to get a lot worse for a long time before they get better. I’m adjusted to it. I really don’t mind but I wish I was younger.
I took the advice of some people posting here. I sold my place and relocating to friendly territory where I know who is to my left and right of me. What I did was so drastic that I’m sure it would break up some marriages. It’s one hell of a sacrifice. But, shit is gonna happen.