The failure of Christians

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tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

Excellent presentation.

Jane
Jane
3 years ago

Thank you thank you for posting this speech. The time is NOW. I stand. 🇺🇸🙏✝️

Jane
Jane
3 years ago
Reply to  Jane

I am trying to confirm whether a 12 foot wall is being built around the White House. I am seeing news about this today.

Jane
Jane
3 years ago
Reply to  Tim Bo

Wonder what’s imbedded in this wall: We the People’s House.

Tim Bo
Tim Bo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jane

Begs the question, what are they about to do that they feel it necessary to turn the WH into a fortress?

kevsh
kevsh
3 years ago
Reply to  Jane

Yes it is a concrete wall, These SOB’s know the hurt locker is coming.

Dana Henry
Dana Henry
3 years ago

This is a keeper and he deserves protection. I’ll be referencing this speech often.

Jane
Jane
3 years ago

Biden made a live speech today: Holey moley. Just listened to a Fox live speech by Biden. He is distributing a new and free government mask Sturdier mask to keep us “safe.”The press started asking questions after he stated how many billions of tests he is sending out. He put his mask on and said nothing. All I could hear was press chatter questions and he said nothing and screen went black!

Patrick Grimes
Patrick Grimes
3 years ago

I’m a big fan of Wes Rhinier’s work. I always read his articles. Pastor Carlsen’s presentation should be played in every church in America. Rating it from 1 to 10 with 10 being the highest I give it a 12.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, get behind me satan.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

I have found God, and it is with his living word the Holy Bible. Maybe you should put down satans works and words and repent.

kirk
kirk
3 years ago

Our Father in Heaven, the Creator of all did not create government, doesn’t judge, is not a jealous god,wishes none to perish and doesn’t require blood sacrifice. If you use discernment and can hear the attributes of the god speaking in the bible you will find the true Father is not the god of Israel. Even Jesus told the pharisees that their father is not his Father. Which god do you serve, a jealous angry god that requires animal sacrifice, demanded the jews kill every man, woman, child and animals of other tribes not beholden to the god of this world the father of all lies or do you serve the Father of Love, the Creator of all who is not jealous but loves us?
Love to all and may Christ reign in all His Glory! Our time is short.

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago
Reply to  kirk

i believe He did establish a government, it is up to us to choose it and follow it.
i made the comment that God was not a jealous God, once. Then i discovered i was wrong. Keep in mind we can all learn, myself included.
Exodus 20:You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the shamayim above, or which is in the earth beneath, or that which is in the mayim under the arets, you do not bow down to them nor serve them.
For I Yahweh your Alahim am a jealous El, visiting the crookedness of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My commands.
How many of these false idols are in this world, in the churches synagogues , our hearts etc……
Are the people of the world listening to Him or their selves?
https://www.donga.com/en/article/all/20210413/2569798/1

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

Deu 4:24 For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God

rhettro
rhettro
3 years ago
Reply to  kirk

The Kingdom of God is a form of government not a religion.

mrjlc38
mrjlc38
3 years ago

There is the pesky matter of Proverbs 3….Did God himself not withhold good?, knowing that an upright serpent being that was ejected from heaven awaited a pair made in His image, knowing this serpent desired to kill them? So He allows the sin that kills them, that’s OK? This same serpent of old literally strolls back into heaven one day (concerning Job) with his fallen, (that caused so much violence and suffering on the earth the LORD himself said he regretting making it!!!). The problem here sir is NOT the matter of right and wrong or tyrants or not…the problem is Gods seeming inability as a creator to control or stop Satan, He can bind but not destroy. So if God is allowing these things for the sake of righteousness, then Proverbs 3 becomes a huge problem in that it creates the very tyrant we are just told above that God will judge. For what? doing the same?. If its “who are you o man?”..then there is no personal relationship as an heir or a son, only submission and eternal capitulation. Every one is so affixed to the end of the world these days…how many times does it become filled with evil that He cant or wont stop it? The suffering now continues day after day and now millenia. Creation has had enough!! no more white robes and men’s words. Show up or get out. Tired of empty hope and powerless born againism. Seriously…shut up you hypocrites. The prayers do nothing unless the mouths and hands of men activate. Either He shows up or He just isn’t the God He made Himself out to be. Go ahead and take me on here. please do, but get ready to have the bible displayed how it ought to be. If you all get to say whatever you want about Him then so shall I!! Why did God allow AND!! create life from the awful evil of the sons of God coming into the daughters of men!! Conception, freaking conception people!!! all God…He allowed it and furthered it, then complained about the evil that came from it!!! and then!!! killed all of mankind for it too!! …then made it sound like it was mercy on us. Enough here. Even as I type this out it angers me like turning tables… you pastors and “elders” have nothing to say other than…”we will see” its always that. A christian has no validation by His choice because you have no power..zero. Just words…more words

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

I guess you are the last word on Gods will, you claim to know the mind of God and creation itself. God gave us free will, if that is not a loving God you know not what you speak of. Your blasphemy will not change a thing but your salvation. May God have mercy on your pitiful soul.

mrjlc38
mrjlc38
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Nope, only using exactly what He says, its this pitifull modern christianity that some how you think isnt anti christ. It is you who cannot even address what I said. May God not spit your luke warm from His mouth. I simply put forward that which you refuse to admit is a serious problem with what is presented in the bible itself.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Ecc1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. Ecc1:15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight; and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

mrjlc38
mrjlc38
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

I presented a valid argument….you came back with nothing but threats. Im challenging the modern Born againer…how bout this one Tom. Show me in the KJV or NKJV where the term “spiritual death” is please. Not an extrapalation of Romans 8 either or some other…”it cant be this so it must be that”… just respond to the question. “spiritual death” where exactly is that?. Keep in mind I know the system, Ive seen behind the curtain of american churches and it is supposed to be the blood of Christ that saves and not your fake powerless system

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

No one is threatening you; you condemn yourself by your own words. Blasphemy, saying the works of God are demonic, those are your words not mine. What do you believe? The theory of evolution, nothing out of nothing, all God asks is to put him first and live a good life. Pro 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Who knows the Bible better than any living creature, satan himself.

mrjlc38
mrjlc38
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

again, not in the Word…you just put that there like no one will question your garbage

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

You question yourself, your choice, you mock and deride God’s creation because you have no power, Pro 19:29 Judgements are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the backs of fools. Pro 20:26 It is a snare to the man who devoureth that which is Holy, and after vows to make enquiry.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and shewith him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; Mat4:9 and saith to him, all these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Perhaps i could help if you are Truly attempting to understand. Yet some of this is on you. Keep it simple and in short burst if possible. i am still learning myself, and can see some of your points.
Tom is correct in that God gave us all free will and choice. We should be grateful. mans free choices is how we got here today. It is how we rinse and repeat also, because of our lack of remembrance.
Modern religion” Yes there is a definite problem. When the Elders of a church now are under the assumption that the church is a business, (Yes i have heard this) there is a problem! When the church and the people do not understand where and what the True church is and is to be there is a problem. When the pastors have online stores etc… there is going to be problems. When they are all (many) so puffed up and full of pride as are our politicians and many of the followers of both, there are problems.
Many of us on all sides and those caught in the middle are angry some righteously so,
So yeah brace yourself for impact, but beware who we are pointing our fingers at. Look in the mirror first, honestly.
“God…He allowed it and furthered it, then complained about the evil that came from it!!! and then!!! killed all of mankind for it too!! …then made it sound like it was mercy on us. “
He never killed “all of mankind.” And He warned and warned, and gave them chance after chance.
You are very confused, many are, and understandably so. You we must all seek His Truths as individuals and do not put much count in what all the voices are spewing.

rhettro
rhettro
3 years ago

Churchianity should not be confused with Christianity.

Surf Nazare
Surf Nazare
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

So who do you suggest we follow or what should we believe?? Do you actually believe in a Supreme being?? Who or what does Jesus mean to you ?? If you do believe in a Supreme being who is he ??? Proverbs 3 for which you seem to apply some deranged meaning is lost to me, I don’t understand how G-d speaking and telling them what will happen if they follow Him and what will happen if they don’t. V19--The Lord by wisdom founded the earth—-Prov 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom, And in all your getting get understanding. v8 Exalt her and she will promote you v. 9 She will place on your head an ornament of GRACE a crown of glory and will DELIVER you !! I don’t see the tyrant in all of this, only a way of life. Yes evil is prevalent and what is the reward of evil and I get your question—-why create the beings that foreshadow evil but if Adam and Eve had done what G-d told them then where would we be now. You question G-d’s inability to control or stop Satan and I suggest He could if so desired. The demons in the man asked Jesus not to send them to the abyss so obviously He had the power. Angelic beings are being held in darkness as we speak—those that left their first estate and had sex with women. Revelation tells how some being held until the end and then game over at the end of the 1000 yr. —-Rev 20:2—seems G-d does have power to control.
Your question about not understanding WHY G-d has allowed evil to operate—-He is the creator of the Universe—-ask Him some day but it is what it is and I am grateful that I am saved whether you can justify it and get Wisdom about it—--through that one last Blood sacrifice—--The Temple and the sacrifices and laws were a shadow of things to come and yet those like you seem to have a blind spot. I also suggest if you really want to see power operate then read Luke 11:13 and act upon it but that is after you really submit and ask Jesus into your heart and consume you. I think this is a giant hole in your spiritual being—-the party is almost over and time short and eternity is closing in on you!!! We are told to watch and see and all the prophecies are jumping off the pages and that wisdom/knowledge and understanding from Prov is in full play now.

Leethal
Leethal
3 years ago

People brought this upon themselves including their EVIL and DERANGED officials they believe in and trust because they have removed the standard of morals which came from GOD and replaced it with their own.

Ron
Ron
3 years ago

“Romans 13:1-2
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God*: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

So, the higher powers, or government that is in charge, weather a King, Queen, or any other title we have read about in history books, they all have had one thing in common. **One ruler with everyone in the kingdom subject to them. **.

However, on July the 4th, 1776 God established a new kind of kingdom.

“In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen United States of America, when in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary….

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Menderiving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness.”

I encourage everyone to re-read Romans 13 with this key of understanding.
The roles are flipped as to previous kingdoms.

In this United States of America, we the people are the higher power. All elected officials are public servants of we the people and must consent to our will. Without consent of the governed the public servants have no original power.
Again, WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE HIGHER POWER ordained by God.

Lastly in a land governed solely from power derived from we the people it is very important to love each other as ourselves as commanded in vs. 8 ” but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

strider 777
strider 777
3 years ago

Wes, thank you for posting the pastor’s video. It was very educational and explained Romans:13 very well.
I want to state this publicly: I believe in God; The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. They are three persons in one God, and one God in three persons.
I also believe that the historical person, Jesus, is the risen Son of God, The Father. I also believe that every person has God-given free will and, therefore, the God-given right to not believe what I believe. However, they do so at their own peril. If they are right and I am wrong, I have lost nothing. However, if I am right and they are wrong, they have lost everything,
Be warned: Jesus, the risen Son of God, said; “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes unto the Father but by me.”

mrjlc38
mrjlc38
3 years ago
Reply to  strider 777

Satan believes every single thing you do (Armageddon will be fought against a 2nd coming Christ). As well, you actually do have a lot to lose. As teachers and evangelists (you’re posting online..evangelising) you risk leading astray…better to have a millstone tied around your neck and thrown into the sea. Narrow is the way doesn’t really conjure up visions of the most prolific religion (Christianity) on earth.
Stop evading very basic questions that have every thing to do with an actual relationship with a living God instead of this “get thee behind me” nonsense. Christ being risen from the dead has nothing to do with a very nasty battle that you are subsequently just tied up in. You taught Gen 3 wrong, period. you taught Gen 6 wrong, period. you taught the flood wrong, period. you ignore the serpent seed. These things matter because the watered down “spiritually dead but now Im alive” is your fault. Its this garbage teaching that has produced powerless Christianity along with zero people being raised from the dead. Please enlighten me…when exactly did we lose the power of the HS?…You cannot even prove the power of prayer anymore because all someone has to do is show up with money or if the operation goes well, then God heard you and should be praised. But if its your kid or wife that you lose or family member then His answer-less position or “No”, is what you are left with. Stupidly asking for “stuff” and wealth is one thing..reaching out in despair to a silent God is abhorent and totally unacceptable and I can say that because I am made in His image by Him as a supposed heir..This is terrible not only as a king to a subject but even worse from a father to a son. Now multiply that times the sand in the seas and just how miniscule I am…we are. You are in your own end times from birth. Something is wrong with the church and He is not responding…for thousands of years now. Now am I really suggesting He isn’t God?? or am I telling you that what you taught me my whole life was askew, enough to generate a foothold for Satan. Instead of ya all praying for God to impart His reasoning about the REAL hard things about God..ie. Job, you just say empty things like God be praised,or Jesus loves you. Although not incorrect statements. It means little to you, you’ll lust after your patrons wives or install your hidden greed the next day like Sunday never happened. Telling me you wont or not intentionally…is the lie
WHERE IS THE POWER?!!

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Have you ever read the sermon on the mount? As to the get behind me satan, Jesus said I can do all these things if I have the faith of mustard seed. You life your choice, you glory in yourself mocking your own reality. Pro 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Lord.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Pro 22:24 Make no friendship with an angry man; And with a furious man thou shalt not go. Pro22:25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

Daanan Mahn
Daanan Mahn
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Three things. When God says He knows the future, who else knows that future with Him?
No one. Only Him. If His claims about the future are to be acted on by all of Creation, all of Creation must trust God explicitly. For a time they did until the day
They did not. Satan and His angels sowed massive distrust of God. God’s credibility was put to the test. Then Satan posited: God can only rule by force, it is His only power, while God said no, Love is Heavens true power. So now, while God could use force and overcome free will, He instead is proving Love and allowing free will to reign. All must decide between Love (as defined in God’s Ten Commandment Law) or force. When all have made their choice without coercion, the world will see God’s overwhelming power.
And BTW God absolutely has the power (Grace) to overcome sin lust greed, vice etc…in His followers lives. I’ve lived it.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

How do you know that I lust after this or that, I do not need a mediator to have a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Your power that you lust for, those are your words. God has worked miracles in my own life, what kind of power do you seek? The power of life and death? Pro22:29 Seest a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

strider 777
strider 777
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Friend, why do try to pick a fight with me? What have I done to offend you? Friend, for your benefit, and the benefit of others, I have prayed that the Lord will give you a personal demonstration of His awesome power. I know that He has heard my prayer and will answer it. My humble advice is this: gird yourself, you’re about to be taught a lesson by the Master.

Sniper -
Sniper -
3 years ago
Reply to  mrjlc38

Why are you pointing fingers at other people? Are you perfect? You don’t know any of these folks, or the measure of their faith, no more than they know you. Just make sure you go to your 501C3 church Sunday and talk with your “feel good pastor” about whatever is troubling you. Who knows, maybe you will feel better about yourself.

dave
dave
3 years ago

Awesome!

Malachi
Malachi
3 years ago

I’ve heard lots of sermons/messages on Romans 13. This is the first, the very first and only one which actually delivers the entire message. Awesome!

Laura McDonough
Laura McDonough
3 years ago

Corp. 501c3 churches have been in decline since the 1950’s, evolving into social clubs, watered down bibles like NIV, RSV, etc. then later people were entertained w/ fitness centers, contemporary music and other activities. The gov. controlled hierarchies control the churches and muzzle pastors and seminary leaders. This was done during the Hiter era and Stalin in Russian orth. churches. Few indep. churches exist that preach Biblical sermons today. Home church or reading old puritan sermons/study groups best. No one will ever speak out against evil in mainline churches, because they are run as businesses.

Sniper -
Sniper -
3 years ago

The only thing that’s important to me right now is: I have my bible in one hand, and my “survival tool” is zeroed in and ready. Lock & load, it’s going to be ugly.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago
Reply to  Sniper -

You bet they know it is coming nothing can stop it.

Sniper -
Sniper -
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

That’s right…

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago

To the commenters that replied to mrjlc38.
Did you notice.
This person and the spirit within, while wrong in certain aspects, is also right in many points.
Is mainly pointing at the same “church” all of us are. They are also pointing at what these physical churches and to an extent false prophets have led us to become and believe generationally. It is up to us to seek the actual Truths.
If we are of the True Church, how are we doing? we represent Him. we are the bride. we are to represent and reflect the True Church, are we not?
a daily accounting of and by ourselves is a good idea.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

Deu 7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.

Last edited 3 years ago by tom finley
a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

tom, i do not take your meaning. ?

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

God himself will deal with them that hate him to their face, could you imagine standing before God himself for that sin.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

Throughout history as recorded in the Holy Bible, angels have appeared to men and they fell flat on their face from fear, God created us a little less than angels but still we are flesh and blood. The countenance of God in our human condition would scare us to death.

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Understood,

  1. He will deal with all of us.

Respectfully, i believe you are wrong on the position of us and the angels. There is more to this story.
The angels immediately told the men to stand up and not worship them.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

Psa 8:5 For thou haste made him a little lower than angels, and haste crowned him with glory and honour.

tom finley
tom finley
3 years ago

I did not say they were worshipping the angels, it was their appearance that instilled fear.

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
3 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Understood,

 Hebrews 1:5 

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

After He was made lower He became greater. i believe we can also become as His sons. we are invited.

Jay El
Jay El
3 years ago

Ezk.14/2Thess.2