Thoughts?

Care to list the discipline you approve of?

Spanking is abuse? YOUR OPINION and that you’re entitled to. Spanking is physical correction when other means have failed- pants down removes added padding-did not say bare ass you bringing that up would suggest your deviant nature ( my opinion) or are you a victim? If so,seek the community help you advocate for. I raise my children- community child raising would be a communist platform-kindly visit a communist website (my opinion)
What I notice on the video is a bunch of people with nothing better to do than watch and or film a few undisciplined people half ass (meaning half attempted-not the sexual ass implications) fight with some commissars? trying to intervene while holding their walkie talkie totally undisciplined anarchy
Lots of good comments here sorry I was late to discussion have work to do in the real world

“The Effect of Spanking on the Brain”

“The study looked at 147 children, including some who were spanked and some who were not spanked in the beginning years of their lives, to see potential differences to the brain. By using MRI assessment, researchers observed changes in brain response while the children viewed a series of images featuring facial expressions that indicate emotional response, such as frowns and smiles. They found that children who had been spanked had a higher activity response in the areas of their brain that regulate these emotional responses and detect threats — even to facial expressions that most would consider non-threatening.

Perhaps surprisingly, says Cuartas, spanking elicits a similar response in children’s brains to more threatening experiences like sexual abuse. “You see the same reactions in the brain,” Cuartas explains. “Those consequences potentially affect the brain in areas often engaged in emotional regulation and threat detection, so that children can respond quickly to threats in the environment.”

“Preschool and school age children — and even adults — [who have been] spanked are more likely to develop anxiety and depression disorders or have more difficulties engaging positively in schools and skills of regulation, which we know are necessary to be successful in educational settings.”

Recognize that spanking is not an effective tool of discipline in the classroom or at home. When parents or teachers use spanking, it doesn’t lead to the desired outcomes in discipline or teach children how to regulate their emotions. “We know there are better techniques, like positive discipline, that are more effective,” Cuartas says. “The most important tool out there is explaining to children certain behaviors that are wrong and what type of behavior to seek through an example.””

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/uk/21/04/effect-spanking-brain

What the video implies is a systemic problem throughout this country of broken families. Even if there were severe physical repercussions in the way of punishment by say, a father, once the young adult is back with his or her friends, and the same or similar environment and circumstances, this would in most cases be recurring or worsen. This is the streets, i.e., the inner city which was systematically destroyed with very little, if any, intervention by the rest of the populace. It seems that it requires a whole package so to speak of reconstruction, economically, socially, and politically. However, in the short term, removing the wayward participants (if feasible) into a boot camp of sorts where they can obtain job skills, with jobs provided afterwards, as well as an economic means of transportation, also learning basic nutrition, life skill sets and about their emotional well-being, with a ‘rotating door’ option to come and go as needed. The churches are unavailable for them, and so are social services, to the degree really needed.

Yes, I’ve been to boot camp. However the reference was to a “boot camp of sorts”, implying there would be some regimentation. As was pointed out, many of those individuals don’t have the immediate support structure for more of the personal aspects of discipline-based interactions, hence the above would be a preemptive intervention. You seem to have missed the failure of the corporate Christian church system in addressing and maintaining an outreach into these social disruptions. Why hasn’t the church proposed debt jubilees, and the doing away with unlawful usury? The infringement of allowing people to work full-time and pay three-fourths of their monthly income towards rent is preposterous. Additionally, a social contract is also the purview of the church. They’ll go on international mission trips but the ghetto downtown seems to be too much for them. Look at the early church leaders and how they helped shape the levers of power such as St. Augustine, i.e., Just War Theory, etc. They were always thinking and coming up with the theories and philosophies (the practical application thereof), in which to conduct the workings and functioning of the socio-political realm, thereby ensuring they were among the movers and shakers of day-to-day life, and not only recipients of what ‘the others’ decide for them.

tom why are you trying to use logic, facts and other raycesst shit on a liberal?

It’s FEEEEELINGS matter, it’s internet research of psychobabble matters. It’s the SCIENCE that there ARE more than 2 genders and so on.

Z-la refuses to tell us it’s success in raising its own kids (if any).

Maybe I’m wrong, has happened before. But after reading many long-winded Z-la posts, I doubt it. I see patterns.

My table is over there, the knuckledragger grandpa with a pot of coffee ready.