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Two guys spitballing in comfortable chairs.
I learned nothing. I saw Mr. Prince choosing his words very carefully. Very. Carefully.
He left us with a thought: “I read a lot of history; it actually has been worse.” So we should take comfort in that?
What’s worse for me? I’m never gonna get that eleven minutes & ten seconds back.
Yes, of course there have been times that have been worse, but Jesus tells where we are headed.
Matthew 24:21-22
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
See also Daniel chapter 12.
Forty-five seconds in, and already I am ‘Okay, I understand how horrible the alternative is, but what other choice is viable?’
Am I to understand that this gent still thinks the electoral system is worth his faith? That the rules still apply? That they will be fairly and consistently used to address any wrongdoing?
I would suggest that these are erroneous conclusions. Obviously, the final box is the one to be most avoided, but at some point if it becomes the only way forward, if only to avert a horror beyond our imagining, then so. Be. It.
I do not see that we have any alternatives left to us. Every other box has been co-opted or otherwise rendered moot, and so here we are.
God help us, but here we are.
…”I do not see that we have any alternatives left to us”…
Did you read the title of the post? It was written by a guy that refuses to vote. And a significant percentage of the commentors on this blog and so many other blogs like this one are people who refuse to vote… I’d estimate at least 25%. I read somewhere that a huge number of hunters & 2A types don’t bother to vote… I don’t recall the exact number but even if it’s only 25% then that’s MILLIONS of votes that were not cast against Biden and MILLIONS of votes that won’t be cast against Harris.
So, no, you can’t honestly say that we have any alternatives left to us. And IMO, people who don’t vote shouldn’t be claiming that TINVOWOOT.
Sir, I would suggest you rethink your premises.
I am to understand that you would have me continue to vote in federal elections, even though we now know that every election in Canada since 1984 was essentially bought-and-paid-for by the Chinese government?
You still think that government corruption does not extend to electoral functions?
How many elections will it take before you understand that those events are nothing other than a means by which you are given the illusion of participation?
I in no way wish to be rude to you, sir, but your reply to my initial post suggests that you think I am not capable of comprehending the thrust of the OP, even as you attempt to explain why Einstein was incorrect in his assessment of the definition of insanity.
Can it be that the lack of interest in voting might, just possibly, be the result of people concluding that the writing is on the wall and that further stalling only shall prolong the agony? What if the world we are told our forefathers died to provide us the right to vote in, no longer exists?
It certainly seems that way.
Good luck in the election.
Muke In Canada – I’ll admit my ignorance of Canadian politics, I have no reason to doubt you in regards to CCP influence there. However I believe this discussion pertains to the upcoming US election. I would ask you to provide documented proof that the CCP has bought and paid for the US election but you won’t be able to provide it.
If you really want to know how the 2020 steal was accomplished and how the democrats are planning to do it again, this is as close to proof as you’re going to get:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/03/james-clyburn-visits-10-key-precincts-for-ballot-collection-in-three-wisconsin-cities-madison-milwaukee-beloit-and-no-one-notices
Basically a large, very sophisticated ballot stuffing operation run out of a black church network, coordinated by Obama and some other very bad actors in US govt. Certainly there’s some CCP influence along the way but hardly owned by the CCP. Definitely not un-beatable given a sufficient voter turnout from our side.
In regards to your reference to Einstein’s definition of insanity (let’s assume it was Einstein’s)… you’re in essence claiming that Donald Trump is insane because he’s been working his ass off to win the election (while getting shot in the head). You are claiming that very smart and hard working people like Charlie Kirk and Scott Presler, who have already registered hundreds of thousands of new Republican voters, are insane. You are also claiming that everyone who is planning to vote for Trump is insane. But people on this blog and hundreds of other blogs who endlessly parrot stuff like ‘TINVOWOOT” while lamenting the fact that CW2 hasn’t kicked off yet don’t fit that definition? Come on Man!
Have you considered that the idea of TINVOWOOT itself is really just part of a psyop run by the left, intended to demoralize the right as well as supress suppress the republican vote?
I was referring to Canadian elections, when I mentioned Chinese influence. Perhaps my wording was obscure. You are correct that evidence of same will not be found as far as American elections go, although in law there is a principle known as ‘preponderance of evidence’, and I would suggest that it might apply in this case. Up to you, I suppose.
As far as my Einstein reference, that was directed at you, for indicating that voting again and again will provide solutions to problems currently besetting us. I would question this conclusion.
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. These events were determined, and the various vast antagonisms upon which they depend assembled, before I was born (1971). People like you and I disagree because the existing structures are in crisis, and we can’t find a means by which to save them that checks all the important boxes.
Enjoy the next five weeks or so.
You know, given the benefit of hindsight I could find myself actually agreeing with you if this election was similar to many of the recent elections… Bush vs Gore, Obama vs McCain or Romney offered only only marginal policy differences but in actuality were just choices between corrupt vs more corrupt. Evil vs eviler. The country was on a destructive course regardless of the election outcome.
Rarely in history has there been such a clear choice between good vs evil. Between possibly the beginning of restoring some semblance of a constitutional republic vs the certain destruction of the country.
You and TINVOWOOT can’t provide a SINGLE GOOD REASON to not fill out a ballot other than your hurt feelings about being burned in the past. It costs nothing other than 5 minutes of time and I guarantee TINVOWOOT spends a lot more than 5 minutes complaining on this blog.
If TINVOWOOT decides to sit this one out and sqander this opportunity then they deserve what they get. Yeah, enjoy the next 5 weeks because if Trump loses it’s going to get a lot worse.
Albert Speer said, amongst other things, that ‘what you support, you condone’. You seem reasonably astute. Surely you have noticed that this system has become demonstrably corrupt. You know, I am sure, that the game is rigged, the rules are obscured, and the players mostly criminal.
How can you continue to participate in something you know to be nonsense? I have lost count of the number of times I have heard thoughtful, well-read people bitch about this-or-that government outrage, acknowledge the corruption providing the money and environment for said outrage, and then in the next breath swear to vote harder next time.
There is a real disconnect between what people observe, and the solutions they arrive at. I suggest that what elections have become are very, very different from what they should have been. I further suggest that being in a position to understand these things, and yet denying that understanding, creates direct responsibility for the consequences thereof.
Hurt feelings? Really? You think that’s what is driving the disagreement concerning the utility of elections and voting under current circumstances?
I would suggest otherwise.
I would also suggest that, no matter who “wins” this election, things will get a lot worse. There is no other path to take. Many things are now coming to a head, converging on this timeframe, and even a fairly-fought and fairly-adjudicated election will not forestall what is about to happen.
Good luck to you and your family, and God bless America.
Same to you sir!
TINVOWOOT, my thoughts exactly.
He’s correct that “in a lot of parts of the country, elections” still work. For small, local fiefdoms.
He’s gravely in error if he extrapolates that to the upcoming federal presidential election.
Which is precisely the problem, and the point at issue.
This is headed one way, like a rollercoaster once the cars crest the initial hill.
“Kinetic” is not an option.
It’s an inevitability.
The only thing at issue at this point, is
1) when it kicks off, and
2) which side is the predator, and which side is the prey.
Period.
Bayou Renaissance Man: Another good one
solution in voting, nope 2020 taught us that, vote non the less! Since this a very old interview a number of the topics spotlighted are now irrelevant. Michigan for example keeping a name on the ballot that isn’t even in the race and floating a law that recount can’t be asked for and challenges can not be brought. Trouble with the horrible alternative, is how do you discern the enemy who’s wearing the same “uniform” as you?