What do you think? I’ve been asked this question a few times over the past week. My answer: I don’t know what to think.
Stick with me I’ll try not jump around too much.
Something isn’t right with this whole Corona Virus ordeal. Never trust the government, and I know we are definitely being lied to. China has come to a standstill over this virus outbreak. Why would a country hurt their economy over a virus that some are saying is no worse than the regular flu? The answer is you don’t. So there is information that the powers that be are not letting out in my opinion. Did China bio-engineer this virus and set it free on their people? It’s awful convenient that the Chinese needed to get protesters off their streets and BAM!, we have a killer virus. What a coincidence that we have an election coming up and the Democrats basically have nothing, so here’s an idea let’s panic the markets and tank our economy so the Democrats and the Deep State have hopes of gaining power and getting rid of Orange Man. Who knows? Our government is so corrupt I take everything they say with a grain of salt.
My wife is a nurse and there seems to be no panic or serious preparation under way at the hospital where she works. My neighbor works in a doctors office and there seems to be no panic there.
Am I prepared? Yes, and maybe that’s why I’m not very worried about this whole virus thing. I haven’t stopped living life either. My wife and I went out and had dinner with some friends Saturday night at a relatively popular sports bar. The place was packed and the food was great. I went out yesterday and played golf with a group of guys, only one of them knows that I write here at NCRenegade. But there was no talk of the virus or anything of a political nature. Everywhere I go it seems most people really have no concern over this event. Maybe it’s because no one trust the news or our government. I don’t know. But should the SHTF people are seriously under prepared.
I wish that I knew what was up with the sudden panic over this whole ordeal. I don’t have a degree in microbiology like David does here. But I read and watch everything he has been posting about this virus. Have I self-quarantined myself and taken some of the measures that he has. Not really. I’m still living my life and hoping for the best. I know, Hope isn’t a plan. I’ve padded my preps and I don’t have to worry about the panic buying that seems to be happening in some areas. Right now the store shelves are still stocked and things seem to be normal in that department here locally. Everything will be normal until it isn’t.
Perhaps what irritates me more than anything about this event is that the criminals are still walking free. This virus news cycle has taken the coup attempt out of the news. Nobody has been arrested. Anyone heard anything about the Durham report lately? Not that it will make a difference but there is no longer any talk about the investigation into the coup plotters. They all walk and will continue to walk free.
I have no idea how this all plays out. I’m prepared and I am continuing to prepare. I’m doing everything I can to stay healthy. Not much has changed for me during this pandemic, not a pandemic, panic. I’m watching it. I’m ready for what may come. But I’m still living.
If this gets bad it gets bad. I hope you’re ready for it. Personally I’d rather us be watering the Tree of Liberty.
Wes
This is not my specialty here ! But I heard on the news today that thousands have died from the flu in the us this year. And another 15 people in NC just this week. So it seems like the flu is a much bigger problem .but that’s just my surface opinion .also since there’s soooooo much media hype I kinda think its overblown.
You hit the nail on the head. The federal government is using this line to mislead the people. What is the difference between the regular flu and COVID-19 that should make us very concerned?
1. The R0 value is between 4.7 and 7.0.
2. The case fatality rate is at least 3.4% for the first infection and an estimated 30% on the second infection.
3. The government has facilitated its spread by misinformation and lack of testing.
As an example:
In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died.
That is a case fatality rate of 1.42%
If we use the low end of the Harvard estimate, 40% of the people will get COVID-19 here.
If we assume 300 million people with a 3.4% case fatality rate (all assumptions are very conservative), we will have 4.08 million people dead.
So why is the government lying? Maybe because we cannot handle the truth. And maybe they believe this is an acceptable number of deaths.
I think David hit the proverbial nail on the head, and I was going to answer Rabbi Will with a similar point. Despite the rhetoric, which seems to have taken hold, especially in what I would call “right wing circles” the differences between this and the flu are: The R0 or how many people will one person infect, the fatality rate, the extended contagious buy asymptomatic phase, and the lack of recovery immunity coupled with reinfection causing more serious and deadly cardiac complications. Additionally, with the flu, typical good hygiene and sanitation are typically enough to avoid contracting it, even while caring for sick relatives. This corona virus is a hell of a lot more contagious.
Unfortunately, it seems that as soon as it became widely know that the CDC Dr that sounded the alarm with regards to “expecting disruptions” was Rod Rosentstein’s sister everything except this narrative quickly became discounted because of those damn democrats. At this point, the “it’s like the flu or a mild cold” line took hold and has been repeated ad nausea.
China, like every other nation in the world deals with the annual flu. Every bit of information, both official and especially leaked out of China shows a massive containment reaction that is unprecedented. Clearly, this is NOT like a seasonal flu or a mild cold. Why is the US govt. telling people not to wear masks but then ordering them to the tune of 35,000,000 per month? Why did Japan close their schools down for 5 weeks? Why has the US been so hell bent on NOT testing while countries like S. Korea been testing and quarantining like crazy?
Here’s one that I find particularly damning: “The White House moved on Thursday to tighten control of coronavirus messaging by government health officials and scientists, directing them to coordinate all statements and public appearances with the office of Vice President Mike Pence, according to several officials familiar with the new approach.” As reported by the New York Times and I picked it up from Arstechnica.
A couple of examples of this: According to the Times, Dr. Anthony Fauci, (article claims he’s) one of the country’s foremost experts on viruses and infectious disease and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, has told colleagues that the White House instructed him not to say anything else without clearance. Second, the sanitized statement by Dr. Messonnier mentioned the CDC and President Trump’s priority …. yet an archive search of her statements shows until supposedly now, she’s never referenced Trump.
If this is just like a cold or seasonal flu why is the executive branch all of a sudden wanting to censor, approve, and even modify all of the messaging?
Finially a voice of reason. Thank you. I’m growing weary of “the sky is falling” every time something happens. Y2K, Sadam’s WMD sleeper cells, SARS, bird flu, swine flu, MERS, bird flu again, Fukishima, ebola, the ever present scam that is climate change, BOO!…….I am far more concerned by the multi generational deep state communist coup to bring down Western Civilazation.
I wonder what your comment will look like by Friday when the US infected number is accurately reported.
How and why do you think it will be “accurately” reported?
Thought Matt’s comment pretty interesting.
I do not think that the situation will be accurately reported as it would negatively impact the economy. We are collateral damage at this point to the government. I understand their logic but wish they would give the people more credit. Then again, look at the two leading Democrat candidates running for President. Would you tell the people the truth if you thought it would actually hurt them more in the long run? An interesting question but step back and ask this simple question: who is really in control and to who should you trust with all of your heart?
“Who is really in control.”
Well you see most do not want to face that.
While they stand there on that stage in their Pride and arrogance it seems they continue to tell the people what they want to hear.
Do not believe this is the Plague to end all plagues, but it does its part in exposing certain things about mankind.
Who we Trust and want to trust, who we believe, who we lavish praise upon. etc. etc.
3/9……what has changed? I work at a large midwestern university, 40,000 plus students, 7000 imported fron China. Nothing here yet! Closest known case is still 150 miles away in Shitcago.
3/2 US had 91 cases. 3/9 US has 605 cases. This does not include any updates since reporting of new cases seems to be on hold today. This does not include any passengers from cruise ships. Our “governor” in NC says we only have 100 test kits in the state. I hate to beg the question but it is now self-evident that the government is purposely not testing in order to shore up the economy. This is what has changed according to our government.
All U.S. colleges, and public school systems are actively ignoring the threat from covid-19. Where colleges have been hit, they quickly hand the sick student off to the area hospital, public/private medical system, and wash their hands of it (without soap)(not my yob!). Communist sanctuary schools like haavaad, yale, princeton, boikley, colombia, etc. are in total information lock down. If a kid gets sick, they just boot him/her/it down the medical assembly line.
Take the time to watch Mr. Cati’s YouTube Video. The Global Pandemic and the Profits over People Multi Topic Discussion.
We don’t know enough to draw any conclusions, even on whether it’s time to panic. There’s a lot of information but most of it’s contradictory.
I present the following as my suspicions only.
Yes, it looks like the virus was created in a lab, with gene sequences from HIV, MERS, and SARS all spliced together neatly. Is it a coincidence that the initial reports came from the city where the Chinese have a biological warfare lab? You tell me.
The relative lack of lethality, from what is being reported--the Chinese always lie about everything, but I’m not hearing about bodies being stacked in piles on streetcorners for collection in Korea or Japan or Singapore--make me think this was an experimental research project that got loose rather than a finished biological weapon. People are dying but not nearly enough, nor quickly enough, for this to be a useful war bug. Also this virus seems to be partially ethnically selective due to racial differences in body chemistry (“But they said race was a social construct!”) and specifically seems vastly more lethal in East Asians just based on death tolls. I assume from this that the ChiComs are working on something they want to use as a Final Solution to the Uighur Problem, and/or for Taiwan, at least in the near term.
I’m going to guess, further, that the Chinese biological warfare lab in Wuhan was run the way the Chinese run everything else. I will guess that they had people washing out used plastic petri dishes into the municipal drains and reusing them instead of opening a new case because it would have cost a nickel. I will also guess that whenever management’s backs were turned, the workers were stealing everything that wasn’t bolted down, from infected research animals to sell as bushmeat in Wuhan’s street markets to incubators and other equipment, because that’s how they roll in the Middle Kingdom. I am imagining some enterprising janitor just wheeled an incubator out the back door and sold it to some enterprising street vendor who turned it into a rotisserie rat, cat, bat, and monkey roaster, without cleaning it. Mmm, mmm, good!
Based on this my short-term prediction, which is worth exactly what you paid for it, is that the “pandemic” will fizzle out in a few more months--though it may stack some bodies in a few Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco tent-cities--and the Chinese will go back to the drawing board.
In the long term? The Chinese aren’t going to quit twisting the dragon’s tail. They want to get rid of the Uighurs and the Taiwanese in particular, but also the rest of the world. China is a belligerent, militaristic, totalitarian state with ambitions of replacing us as the global hegemon. They’re not going to give up biological weapons any more than they’re going to give up nukes. Any dagger to hold at the world’s throat, they will grasp blindly for in the dark. And, this being China, well. Has anyone here read much Lovecraft? “Do not call up that which ye cannot put down.” With COVID19 the Chinese have called up that which they cannot put down. And it’s already hurting their economy, it’s already cost them dearly. But they’re going to keep on grabbing that hot stove. They’re going to keep on sticking their dicks in that toaster. They can’t help themselves. They’re going to keep on playing with that pretty, pretty fire. This time they didn’t turn loose Captain Trips. Will we be so lucky next time?