If the time comes where they become a modern day Gestapo then I’ll join the ranks in condemning them all as a group. Until then, discernment and humanity must prevail.
That day is here. We live without the rule of law. Remember the video was Part 1. I suggest you hold your opinion until the rest of the videos are released.
Met with my (Constitutional) sheriff last week. He seemed to think we’re pretty close to the end of ‘the rule of law’. I mentioned to him that once that point is reached, it clears the way for us to ‘take out the trash’. He agreed. He’s a good sheriff and I trust him, but he’s the ONLY LEO I trust. We have to remember that most LEOs work for the pension and do the bidding of their masters, and we, Follower, ain’t the Masters.
This follower does not desire to be the Master nor one of the Masters.
i think we see the problems with the ones that do.
The point is we do not condemn the group unless it is moving as one. one collective, one flock, one mind.
Each one of us i am sure is making compromises with this world as we navigate through it.
My compromise will not get anyone killed, nor cover for those that do. Every Leo has a choice, same as every politician. Not everyone of pharaohs guards were bad but they all died under the sea just the same.
If we had the rule of law, Trump would be President, the pharmaceutical companies would have to answer for the COVID-19 and vaccine deaths, and we would still be a Republic.
Ever see the footage from the Boston bombing when the neighborhoods were locked down and the “Light ’em up” a family with paintball guns for merely standing on their own front porch? That’s the moment it became crystal clear how things will play out when the games begin. They will play along to protect their paychecks and pensions until it becomes too dangerous to do so. Let’s be real. Been on this rock for 60 years, plenty of LEO friends over the years…the good ones that understood their oath are all retiring.
That’s simple deflection and you should knock it off. If you don’t know by now the behavior of criminal gov’t employees you probably never will until they victimize you directly. So be it.
I agree DrOfar. These para military tactics being used in the public sector, is in my opinion, way out of control and should be abandoned sooner than later.
Being a smart ass does not make it True.
i know this because i can be one. There are many videos of police doing the right thing. Yet people do not want to see nor admit that side.
People (many)do not want to face the Truth. Too difficult?
It is far to easy to condemn all, to condemn them all by group, by association.
Sin is within all of us, and sin is lawlessness.
So where should we stand?
I condemn all police that turn a blind eye to the criminal elements within their own department. Do not come after the citizenry until you’ve cleaned your own house. if they can’t do that maybe they should move to a different career, although McDonald’s and Walmart are currently laying people off.
Who will be knocking on our doors enforcing unconstitutional edicts? Who will stand with us? Who among THEM, will defend freedom and not oppose it? It is time for them to show themselves.
Louis Jenkins
1 year ago
Criminal and civil court if the first doesn’t work. Stupid is as stupid does.
tom finley
1 year ago
Scum of the earth, just doing their job right? As I have stated before, any attempt to arrest or detain me will be taken as a threat to my life and I will act accordingly. If they come to my house same applies.
Tom, with everything you have said on this forum that you will do, they won’t be visiting you at 5am, they will nuke your place from orbit, just to be sure! LOL.
All cops know who the bad cops are!!. If you speak up or stand up you get no back up. Therefore they all close ranks with the thin blue line around the bad cops. There are no good cops only those that wished they were good… misprision of felony
If your a good cop then DO THE RIGHT THING, quit and find a new job. Most of what cops enforce are “statutes” not laws and they are being made by individuals that have little to no interest in doing the right thing. Stop being used as hit men all you good cops.
Is this what we all want? To throw every Sheriff, deputy, cop into the same barrel and treat them all the same? Seriously? IMO, this is very wrong. It’s as wrong as having this kind of logic on every other institution where people work. I should not have to say that there are good, and bad, in every profession. Did the cops that shot the man in that video to a heinous and unjust thing? — ABSOLUTELY. Did their department cover it up? YES. They should be held accountable and tried. But, this does not mean that we decide every last one of them is an enemy of the people. Didn’t Obama start this BS with turning people against the police?? How did you feel about it then?
I live in a small community in NE Georgia. When TSHTF, I’m counting on my local Sheriff to do the right thing for the county I live in. He’s promised to do so and we will be looking to see if he keeps his word. Until then, I’ll trust him to do so and will support him.
Friends, there are too many knee jerk reactions to individual situations. We must all maintain our humanity and not become a mob with mob mentality. And yes, I believe in confronting evil; on a case by case basis, not using the “shotgun effect” where all are guilty as a whole.
Some of what you say is true B55. I will agree we can’t judge all by a small percentage of bad apples. However, the good cops, if that is what they want to be, have to WEED OUT those that act like this group of individuals did. This was criminal by all standards. The bad actors should not have or get a jail out of free card because of BLUE.
Like you said, I am counting on the local sheriff to do the right thing. That right thing starts before the raid and/or a bad outcome. Big question to all is, how well do you know your local law enforcement???
I am a member of CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) in my county. I joined 6 years ago for several reasons. 1). I was now retired and had the time to get involved. 2). I wanted to meet local, like-minded individuals. 3). I wanted to get to know some of my local officials, including the Fire Chief and the Sheriff. 4). When TSHTF, I wanted to get some firsthand information from the movers and shakers in my local city/county.
I have been around my sheriff enough times to believe he will do the right thing. Also, I’ve gotten to know a number of locals in various positions that believe in him too. Now, under pressure, in a real grid down or if the feds blew into town with some draconian edicts, it will be under those conditions that I will truly find out.
The bottom line, he came to mind when I saw this post and some of the responses. Right now, I’m not throwing him, and his deputies, into the same barrel of total mistrust and vilification.
I turned against the police back in the early 90s when the cops declared war on the American people. If a man puts on the enemy uniform, rides in the same car with the enemy, protects his “brother” officer, then he is the enemy until he surrenders and takes off the uniform.
A cop pulls up on a man wearing a particular color in a particular neighborhood, he will treat the man as a gang member and a threat. A cop pulls over a man wearing the cut of an outlaw motorcycle club, he will treat the man as a threat. Why should the scum with badges be treated any different by the citizens?
” But, this does not mean that we decide every last one of them is an enemy of the people”
Not to sound flippant but you know what it does NOT mean while you fail to know what it does mean?
So by way of inductive reasoning, how many more criminal violations BY law enforcement will be needed before we can cogently conclude there is a pervasive and perhaps systemic, festering problem?
“We must all maintain our humanity and not become a mob with mob mentality.”
Well, if we ALL are doing the same thing is that not a mob by tautology?
“And yes, I believe in confronting evil; on a case by case basis, not using the “shotgun effect” where all are guilty as a whole.”
If you got bilateral shoulder, hip and knee replacements that were total failures from the start and never resolved, would you impugn orthopedics as quackery?
Madam DeFarge
1 year ago
Police unions back demturds, enough said.
a follower, working on it.
1 year ago
Show me the Job that evades all sin? Show me the perfect crime free job?
This is the gestapo. You’re an idiot if you can’t see that. This isn’t a one off. This happens everyday all over the country. Ya not all are bad directly but they protect the bad ones so no time to separate the bad from the slightly less bad. They’re all enemies of the people, revenue collectors for the state. I’m not calling for violence, just commenting on what I see
ghostsniper
1 year ago
Apparently some need to be victimized by the jackboots directly before they get the clue.
Any of you?
How many people have never had an interaction?
Are they all indeed piglets?
How many times have you had an interaction, and was it for a good reason?
How many times were shots fired?
Why did the FBI have an “interaction with Wes Rhinier and was it warranted? Has Wes ever acknowledged that perhaps it was? Why?
Did they shoot Wes and behave with lawlessness?
Last edited 1 year ago by a follower, working on it.
warranted. Are you saying there was absolutely no cause to have a conversation with you?
Honestly if i had said and called for all of the things i have seen out of you i would be surprised if i had never been paid a visit.
There is no way that you do not see we are all being watched and listened too. And no i am not living in fear.
Last edited 1 year ago by a follower, working on it.
my comments are based on acceptance. a little personal responsibility.
Context on why Wes was paid a visit. many of you were not here when this happened.
Darren Taylor
1 year ago
What were they looking for inside? Ohh right, hand sanitizer.
Need to disband all swat teams & demilitarize all sheriffs and police forces, period. What’s wrong with waiting for the right time and place to take them down? Every no knock raid gone bad could of been avoided by simply waiting.
Does it not seem odd that there is no follow up to this event?
Some of you must live near this area or have family close.
If these guys are so bad and vicious, doing this daily, why, HOW, did this video make it to the people?
The video comes from Jason’s camera. The attorney came to me to make the first video. I made it because someone once said the truth will set us free. The video speaks for itself. Please notice the lack of opinions or unverified commentary in the video.
Look at atlanta, piglets shoot one of theirs and the city goes on high alert, riot gear, off duties with a standby of the N. Guard. Antifa are thugs but they take action. We, we pass around videos.
You just got right to the heart of the matter. You dont have to become like antifa or the Muslims. But we can learn a few things from thier tactics
Noway2
1 year ago
I am extremely anti police. I would just as soon throw the entire “profession” into the trash can of history and eliminate them. Any professional, as in career not behavior, hired thug enforcers will turn tyrannical. Make them tax funded and it goes double. They can’t help it. It is the nature of the beast. Those who go into it wanting to be the “good” guys are misguided.
I am also anti cop on a personal level. The idea that some stupid goon goes through a certificate program, “swears” to uphold the law, is given a cheap piece of alloy to pin on their chest and now gets to tell ME or anyone else what to do is an affront. Let’s see them get through the first semester math class to do my job. Hint, they can’t or they wouldn’t be a cop. Until such time as they are remotely my equal they have zero business telling ME what to do and as far as I am concerned have the “authority” to get down on their knees before me.
I care not one wit what happens to them or if they even go home at the end of their shift. They’re garbage. I have no use or want for them. This little piggy can go wee wee wee straight to hell.
edited to correct a couple of typos.
Police were not bad, they were allowed to use discretion. Most were approachable part of the community, working with the other citizens to maintain a harmonious and peaceful existence. Law enforcement on the other hand, straight thug culture. Supreme authority empowered and encouraged to use brutal tactics to keep the peasants in line. Zero respect for leos.
Your comment reminds me of something i used to point out before my views became even more jaded: i noticed and would comment on how the terminology changed from police to law enforcement officer and how much more draconian the latter sounds. Welcome to post 9-11-2001 AmeriKa.
Andy would never let Barney chamber a round, now? O -- “ We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” -- as our military. All cops getting the exact same costumes and weapons of war from precinct to precinct.
Constitutional carry, men with fortitude, does not require all that outside funding.
men who will just open their mouth in the proper ways, (as guided from within, as needed. in all assemblies. i believe this is where we have went astray. Stay and fight at least to see if they can be brought back. Do not immediately cut and run shaking the sand from your sandals.
I was quoting Obama there. Maybe a couple will hear words but the majority? Nope. We have been spreading the word for years, will we continue? Of course, but I cannot wait around while the infrastructure is completed. Cannot leave this for my daughter to deal with, whatever I have to do to protect her.
What? we must therefore condemn all the blue?
Yes, and the sooner you realize they are an enemy force the better
And all the “patriots” are they also the same?
All the Bible thumpers, are they all the same?
All women?
All men?
Need i continue?
Stop being used?
I agree with you. See my post on this.
If the time comes where they become a modern day Gestapo then I’ll join the ranks in condemning them all as a group. Until then, discernment and humanity must prevail.
That day is here. We live without the rule of law. Remember the video was Part 1. I suggest you hold your opinion until the rest of the videos are released.
So we also have no rule of law?
Met with my (Constitutional) sheriff last week. He seemed to think we’re pretty close to the end of ‘the rule of law’. I mentioned to him that once that point is reached, it clears the way for us to ‘take out the trash’. He agreed. He’s a good sheriff and I trust him, but he’s the ONLY LEO I trust. We have to remember that most LEOs work for the pension and do the bidding of their masters, and we, Follower, ain’t the Masters.
This follower does not desire to be the Master nor one of the Masters.
i think we see the problems with the ones that do.
The point is we do not condemn the group unless it is moving as one. one collective, one flock, one mind.
Each one of us i am sure is making compromises with this world as we navigate through it.
My compromise will not get anyone killed, nor cover for those that do. Every Leo has a choice, same as every politician. Not everyone of pharaohs guards were bad but they all died under the sea just the same.
If we had the rule of law, Trump would be President, the pharmaceutical companies would have to answer for the COVID-19 and vaccine deaths, and we would still be a Republic.
i did not say the world has the rule of law.
Do we? Should we the “men of God?”
Are we set-apart or not?
David, Should have asked you. How are you doing? Feeling better?
Trump needs to admit vax was a mistake, if not, he’s part of the problem
Trump’s ego prevents him from admitting the truth. He does not have the honor or morality to represent the people.
Ever see the footage from the Boston bombing when the neighborhoods were locked down and the “Light ’em up” a family with paintball guns for merely standing on their own front porch? That’s the moment it became crystal clear how things will play out when the games begin. They will play along to protect their paychecks and pensions until it becomes too dangerous to do so. Let’s be real. Been on this rock for 60 years, plenty of LEO friends over the years…the good ones that understood their oath are all retiring.
That’s simple deflection and you should knock it off. If you don’t know by now the behavior of criminal gov’t employees you probably never will until they victimize you directly. So be it.
Indeed Ghost. HCAR, with a giggle switch.
CIII
Of all the groups you cited, only law enforcement swear an oath to the people of the US, eh?
I agree DrOfar. These para military tactics being used in the public sector, is in my opinion, way out of control and should be abandoned sooner than later.
It would appear that the blue has no problem condemning all the public. They are picking sides with their actions.
i do not post videos of cops doing the right thing and then go on to assume they are all good.
And yet we are to believe we are to do the opposite?
You do not post videos of cops doing the right thing because there are too few.
Being a smart ass does not make it True.
i know this because i can be one. There are many videos of police doing the right thing. Yet people do not want to see nor admit that side.
People (many)do not want to face the Truth. Too difficult?
It is far to easy to condemn all, to condemn them all by group, by association.
Sin is within all of us, and sin is lawlessness.
So where should we stand?
I condemn all police that turn a blind eye to the criminal elements within their own department. Do not come after the citizenry until you’ve cleaned your own house. if they can’t do that maybe they should move to a different career, although McDonald’s and Walmart are currently laying people off.
Are they calling for or arresting those involved?
Who will be knocking on our doors enforcing unconstitutional edicts? Who will stand with us? Who among THEM, will defend freedom and not oppose it? It is time for them to show themselves.
Criminal and civil court if the first doesn’t work. Stupid is as stupid does.
Scum of the earth, just doing their job right? As I have stated before, any attempt to arrest or detain me will be taken as a threat to my life and I will act accordingly. If they come to my house same applies.
Tom, with everything you have said on this forum that you will do, they won’t be visiting you at 5am, they will nuke your place from orbit, just to be sure! LOL.
Yea LOL brewer55
Yeah, it’s the only way to be sure.
Are tungsten rods dropped from a low earth satellite. They have those and very destructive.
All cops know who the bad cops are!!. If you speak up or stand up you get no back up. Therefore they all close ranks with the thin blue line around the bad cops. There are no good cops only those that wished they were good… misprision of felony
If your a good cop then DO THE RIGHT THING, quit and find a new job. Most of what cops enforce are “statutes” not laws and they are being made by individuals that have little to no interest in doing the right thing. Stop being used as hit men all you good cops.
Did that.
You don’t know me but, you have my respect.
Not a hard choice. Had been on the reserves for a few months. When I found out what it was all about, I had to leave.
Not like I had 10 years in or anything. A man has to stand on principle, if not he is nothing.
Truth
Is this what we all want? To throw every Sheriff, deputy, cop into the same barrel and treat them all the same? Seriously? IMO, this is very wrong. It’s as wrong as having this kind of logic on every other institution where people work. I should not have to say that there are good, and bad, in every profession. Did the cops that shot the man in that video to a heinous and unjust thing? — ABSOLUTELY. Did their department cover it up? YES. They should be held accountable and tried. But, this does not mean that we decide every last one of them is an enemy of the people. Didn’t Obama start this BS with turning people against the police?? How did you feel about it then?
I live in a small community in NE Georgia. When TSHTF, I’m counting on my local Sheriff to do the right thing for the county I live in. He’s promised to do so and we will be looking to see if he keeps his word. Until then, I’ll trust him to do so and will support him.
Friends, there are too many knee jerk reactions to individual situations. We must all maintain our humanity and not become a mob with mob mentality. And yes, I believe in confronting evil; on a case by case basis, not using the “shotgun effect” where all are guilty as a whole.
Some of what you say is true B55. I will agree we can’t judge all by a small percentage of bad apples. However, the good cops, if that is what they want to be, have to WEED OUT those that act like this group of individuals did. This was criminal by all standards. The bad actors should not have or get a jail out of free card because of BLUE.
Like you said, I am counting on the local sheriff to do the right thing. That right thing starts before the raid and/or a bad outcome. Big question to all is, how well do you know your local law enforcement???
I am a member of CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) in my county. I joined 6 years ago for several reasons. 1). I was now retired and had the time to get involved. 2). I wanted to meet local, like-minded individuals. 3). I wanted to get to know some of my local officials, including the Fire Chief and the Sheriff. 4). When TSHTF, I wanted to get some firsthand information from the movers and shakers in my local city/county.
I have been around my sheriff enough times to believe he will do the right thing. Also, I’ve gotten to know a number of locals in various positions that believe in him too. Now, under pressure, in a real grid down or if the feds blew into town with some draconian edicts, it will be under those conditions that I will truly find out.
The bottom line, he came to mind when I saw this post and some of the responses. Right now, I’m not throwing him, and his deputies, into the same barrel of total mistrust and vilification.
agreed, we expect and are told, our Father to look at each of us as individuals. i believe we also need to do this.
I turned against the police back in the early 90s when the cops declared war on the American people. If a man puts on the enemy uniform, rides in the same car with the enemy, protects his “brother” officer, then he is the enemy until he surrenders and takes off the uniform.
A cop pulls up on a man wearing a particular color in a particular neighborhood, he will treat the man as a gang member and a threat. A cop pulls over a man wearing the cut of an outlaw motorcycle club, he will treat the man as a threat. Why should the scum with badges be treated any different by the citizens?
Exactly!
” But, this does not mean that we decide every last one of them is an enemy of the people”
Not to sound flippant but you know what it does NOT mean while you fail to know what it does mean?
So by way of inductive reasoning, how many more criminal violations BY law enforcement will be needed before we can cogently conclude there is a pervasive and perhaps systemic, festering problem?
“We must all maintain our humanity and not become a mob with mob mentality.”
Well, if we ALL are doing the same thing is that not a mob by tautology?
“And yes, I believe in confronting evil; on a case by case basis, not using the “shotgun effect” where all are guilty as a whole.”
If you got bilateral shoulder, hip and knee replacements that were total failures from the start and never resolved, would you impugn orthopedics as quackery?
Police unions back demturds, enough said.
Show me the Job that evades all sin? Show me the perfect crime free job?
This was down and simple WRONG & AVOIDABLE if the video is even half accurate. You can’t shine shit no matter what polish you try to put on it.
i did not say otherwise, did i?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-hit-run-driver-who-plowed-into-mom-baby-stolen-car-murdered-after-light-sentence
AMEN!
This is the gestapo. You’re an idiot if you can’t see that. This isn’t a one off. This happens everyday all over the country. Ya not all are bad directly but they protect the bad ones so no time to separate the bad from the slightly less bad. They’re all enemies of the people, revenue collectors for the state. I’m not calling for violence, just commenting on what I see
Apparently some need to be victimized by the jackboots directly before they get the clue.
Yes, those that have never had an interaction with the felons in blue are talking from a television point of view.
Any of you?
How many people have never had an interaction?
Are they all indeed piglets?
How many times have you had an interaction, and was it for a good reason?
How many times were shots fired?
Why did the FBI have an “interaction with Wes Rhinier and was it warranted? Has Wes ever acknowledged that perhaps it was? Why?
Did they shoot Wes and behave with lawlessness?
Warranted? You really need a new hobby.
warranted. Are you saying there was absolutely no cause to have a conversation with you?
Honestly if i had said and called for all of the things i have seen out of you i would be surprised if i had never been paid a visit.
There is no way that you do not see we are all being watched and listened too. And no i am not living in fear.
Still waiting for my visit, we will see how it turns out, I do not care that they listen or watch..
my comments are based on acceptance. a little personal responsibility.
Context on why Wes was paid a visit. many of you were not here when this happened.
What were they looking for inside? Ohh right, hand sanitizer.
or a gas stove
Do you all remember this…https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/supreme-court-cops-protect-individuals
Enough said…
Need to disband all swat teams & demilitarize all sheriffs and police forces, period. What’s wrong with waiting for the right time and place to take them down? Every no knock raid gone bad could of been avoided by simply waiting.
You can thank Obama for all the swat teams and the militarized police. I believe he was the one that started bring in military equipment
https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-arrests-monroe-eca021d8a54ec73598dd72b269826f7a
The LA State PoPo said there was no bodycam footage and he died in a car accident. Uh huh. How about they beat and tased him to death and tried to cover it up until actual bodycam footage was leaked to the AP.
Does it not seem odd that there is no follow up to this event?
Some of you must live near this area or have family close.
If these guys are so bad and vicious, doing this daily, why, HOW, did this video make it to the people?
The video comes from Jason’s camera. The attorney came to me to make the first video. I made it because someone once said the truth will set us free. The video speaks for itself. Please notice the lack of opinions or unverified commentary in the video.
So why no follow up? No response from “authorities?”
Went to their website and noticed there have been several recent call ins and anonymous pranks, tic tock etc. Seems like this may play in to all of that.
https://www.facebook.com/people/Cherokee-County-Sheriffs-Office/100064453819587/
Look at atlanta, piglets shoot one of theirs and the city goes on high alert, riot gear, off duties with a standby of the N. Guard. Antifa are thugs but they take action. We, we pass around videos.
You just got right to the heart of the matter. You dont have to become like antifa or the Muslims. But we can learn a few things from thier tactics
I am extremely anti police. I would just as soon throw the entire “profession” into the trash can of history and eliminate them. Any professional, as in career not behavior, hired thug enforcers will turn tyrannical. Make them tax funded and it goes double. They can’t help it. It is the nature of the beast. Those who go into it wanting to be the “good” guys are misguided.
I am also anti cop on a personal level. The idea that some stupid goon goes through a certificate program, “swears” to uphold the law, is given a cheap piece of alloy to pin on their chest and now gets to tell ME or anyone else what to do is an affront. Let’s see them get through the first semester math class to do my job. Hint, they can’t or they wouldn’t be a cop. Until such time as they are remotely my equal they have zero business telling ME what to do and as far as I am concerned have the “authority” to get down on their knees before me.
I care not one wit what happens to them or if they even go home at the end of their shift. They’re garbage. I have no use or want for them. This little piggy can go wee wee wee straight to hell.
edited to correct a couple of typos.
Police were not bad, they were allowed to use discretion. Most were approachable part of the community, working with the other citizens to maintain a harmonious and peaceful existence. Law enforcement on the other hand, straight thug culture. Supreme authority empowered and encouraged to use brutal tactics to keep the peasants in line. Zero respect for leos.
Your comment reminds me of something i used to point out before my views became even more jaded: i noticed and would comment on how the terminology changed from police to law enforcement officer and how much more draconian the latter sounds. Welcome to post 9-11-2001 AmeriKa.
Andy would never let Barney chamber a round, now? O -- “ We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” -- as our military. All cops getting the exact same costumes and weapons of war from precinct to precinct.
Constitutional carry, men with fortitude, does not require all that outside funding.
men who will just open their mouth in the proper ways, (as guided from within, as needed. in all assemblies. i believe this is where we have went astray. Stay and fight at least to see if they can be brought back. Do not immediately cut and run shaking the sand from your sandals.
I was quoting Obama there. Maybe a couple will hear words but the majority? Nope. We have been spreading the word for years, will we continue? Of course, but I cannot wait around while the infrastructure is completed. Cannot leave this for my daughter to deal with, whatever I have to do to protect her.
The police have no obligation to protect us. Check out this response from Katherine Watt-Bailiwick News: https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/federal-militarization-of-local-police
Maybe the lit cigarette in the guy’s mouth alarmed one of the officers.