Deep State 1 – Trump 0

There is much speculation that Trump did not know about the Ukrainian drone attack on Russian air bases. The facts are that Pompeo, Graham and Blumenthal all were in Ukraine to meet with Zelensky just prior to the attack. The logistics involved seem improbable for Ukraine to have planned and implemented this attack without NATO assistance.

It is not much of a leap to assume that the United States greenlighted and implemented this attack under the last administration. This assumption means that Trump and Hegseth both are not in control of the government and military. Is this plausible? It would make sense since neither Trump, Vance or Hegseth has made a statement concerning the attack.

Where does that leave us if this is true? The START treaty has been violated by the United States. The United States has participated in an act of war against Russia (just as the Biden administration did by blowing up the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream2 pipelines). But more importantly, it means that the Deep State is still in control. That is validated by the federal court injunctions against Trump and the lack of progress by Congress.

What options does this leave Trump? What would you do if you were the President and you came to the conclusion that you are nothing more than a figurehead? The judiciary, Congress and government/non-government agencies are under the control of the Deep State. The same Deep State that was labelled as a conspiracy theory under the first Trump administration and then openly embraced by the illegal Biden puppet administration.

The clock is ticking because Russia does not care. They care about their sovereignty and their people. Do you think Trump will declare martial law, disband Congress and the Supreme Court? It may be the only path forward to prevent WWIII but I am just one person with no input on our collective fate.

David DeGerolamo

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tom finley
tom finley
3 months ago

I don’t think it matters at this point if he did not know, the deep state has proved they will not abide by his agenda. The deep state controls all three branches of fed.gov and the DOD, intel agency’s, if he declares martial law the DOD will declare it an unlawful order and stand down. We are and have been at a crossroad, fight or surrender PERIOD.

tom finley
tom finley
3 months ago
Reply to  DRenegade

My answer would be to stand with the President, how through of a job did he do cleaning up the military forces.

Joe Blow
Joe Blow
3 months ago
Reply to  DRenegade

Yeah, makes Hegseth’s selection pretty clear now, doesn’t it?
I believe SOME of the troops, likely most of them, will follow his orders assuming they are to simply keep the peace. The 69th intersectional dildo brigade however, will likely go postal and need to be put down. Theres too many weirdo’s in the perfumed princes these days.

kal kal
kal kal
3 months ago
Reply to  DRenegade

Third option, war verses wife and kids at home….. drop and run would be the normal inclination for many I would venture. Hopefully, some hardline troops would stand with the correction of the course of the Republic. How many are those that stand with the same furor as Hegseth?

Green Hornet
Green Hornet
3 months ago

If Trump fails to clear out the DS, as suggested above, then yes, we’re on a one way path to WW3. If Trump does lock it all down and purge out the cancer, then he’ll have validated everything the left has accused him of being, and it will start the CW.
We may be in a no-win scenario here. I have nothing profound to add, no wisdom to solve this…I just fix Learjet stabilizers. Lord, lead us and guide us as we descend into that Valley of Shadows and Death.

Steiner
Steiner
3 months ago
Reply to  Green Hornet

That’s what I’ve been thinking GH. If Trump starts arresting all the criminals in .gov (who rightly need to be arrested,) the left will go ballistic and it’ll be Civil War. Don’t forget to tighten all those stabilizer bolts and no water in the JP-4.

Fido
Fido
3 months ago
Reply to  Green Hornet

I hate to contemplate it, but I’d rather have CWII than deep-state WWIII. At least then I’m on a more equal footing with those who wish me harm. WWIII leaves me little I can do.

173dVietVet
173dVietVet
3 months ago

Martial Law is not high on Trump’s list of options. Very difficult and nearly impossible with vast “enemy media Libtards” controlling what news gets shoved out to the Sheeple.
Most likely Trump will order all American civilians and any others not working inside the Embassy in Ukie-land out of country while stopping all communications to include intel sharing with Five Eyes about Russia or Ukraine. Trump would also stop all transfers of supplies, even humanitarian and $$$$$$.
Martial Law requires huge force deployments and is not easy or quick. Shutting the gates to Langley with shoot to kill orders may be easier. Order ALL OUT. LET NOBODY BACK IN. Send them home on admin leave.
Then slowly let vetted worker bees and trusted leaders return to pick up pieces and prevent deep staters from erasing data (hidden secrets of their perfidy…)
Old guy’s opinion….your mileage may vary….

kevsh
kevsh
3 months ago
Reply to  173dVietVet

Right now Trump is having a difficult time keeping the states in order, on the men in female sports. 1st Timothy speaks a lot about a man keeping his house in order. Right now the house of the United States is in literal chaos! I see no other resolution than for Trump to suspend posse comitatus and start arresting the trouble makers with the capital T. Be done with this nonsense.

Checkers
Checkers
3 months ago
Reply to  173dVietVet

You are assuming his orders to do those things would be followed. They would not. Too many snakes in the grass that aren’t known.

Nobody
Nobody
3 months ago

The war in Ukraine will not end soon. It’s intended to expand into all of Europe. Listen to what the EU and Nato are saying and doing. As the war expands, China will not miss the opportunity to make her moves. The Middle East will probably go up in flames. The Southern border here? We ain’t seen nothing yet. Trump was part of the beginning of the war. He’s either real stupid, or a liar, or he’s in on it up to his eye brows. We’ve been had. Again. Resist.

Joe Blow
Joe Blow
3 months ago

Based on his previous inability to cross the rubicon, I don’t think he will. To his credit, the dems would declare HIM the tyrant, half the country would listen to them, and we would break out in civil war. How can the man choose that?

Michael
Michael
3 months ago
Reply to  Joe Blow

JFK “crossed the Rubicon:

I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds.

John F. Kennedy

Big Jymn
Big Jymn
3 months ago

BUT Trump could just LET Putin nuke Ukraine off the map; thus doing the favor of eliminating one of America’s greatest enemies (the DEEP STATE); and as such; let Putin’s actions slide. When a foreign nation assists the American people in eliminating their enemies; that country should be rewarded; not punished. The DEEP STATE does NOT control Russia; hence their insatiable desires to destroy it. Russia is our ONLY available option; to enable us to defeat the DEEP STATE.

TakeAHardLook
TakeAHardLook
3 months ago

If, in fact, Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” contains $60B in funding for UKR then Trump is already compromised.

And, if so, I need to dig out my dad’s old plans for his fallout shelter from the ’50’s.

And where DID I put that 2 Million sunblock anyway?

DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
3 months ago

Trump would send a clear signal to the Israeli midget and the degenerate socialists who run Europa if he would just order a stand down of ALL US forces from the Baltics to the Mediterranean. Then, BRING THEM HOME along with all of their equipment, dependents, etc. And yes, I know that will never happen. Sad.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
3 months ago

I am saving this essay. It is profound. My quick response may sound ignorant. I will use this essay’s questions to think on as we move deeper into the fray of World War.

I would return what money given to me in my campaign to be President. I would divorce myself of Israeli council. America must stand on her own. I would end the Federal Reserve by “whatever means” it takes. I would increase ICE asap to get illegals out of our nation. I would dismantle the evangelical faith office installed in our government. I would end tariffs asap. All transgenders would be immediately removed from the military asap. Diluted military strength not allowed. I would end 501 3c non profit churches asap. Scripture and politics do not mix. It’s vinegar and water. I would create organizations for our youth. I would shut down propaganda news owned by a few billionaires. The news is destroying us with 24/7 lies.

I would speak with Putin asap. No art of the deals. No one,present. No spy stuff listening in. I would come clean to the American people and to the world. I would tell the world the truth about the Covid mandates and lockdowns. I would get our government employees out of the CFR and other think tanks. No. Ore yapping on Truth Social. Stop involvement in Gaza. Asap! Are we an autonomous nation? No, we are beggars. Our government lives off of debt based fiat. I would get rid of this crypto fiat and dismantle my Trump meme and stable coins. I would end dual citizenship. I would have congressional term limits. Congress is imprisoned by handlers. I would scare the pants off the Supreme Court. This is my quick response. Maybe not too intelligent but…

It’s too late. Trump will not do any of this. Get ready. Get on your knees and pray to God.

Stan Sylvester
Stan Sylvester
3 months ago
Reply to  Jane Tzilvelis

I admire your passion and succinct writing. It was LBJ that was the big mover with 501c3 for the professing Christian denominations. He was getting worried about the Vietnam bodybags being seen on the news. They now must toot the gubmint narrative or risk losing that 501c3 status
Now, when something like 10/7 rolls around they all remind us we should be backing Israhell. They showed their true colors when they closed the churches during the lockdowns. Then they rallied behind the jab. The leadership takes the religious people right into danger, [Micah 3:11.] Prayers can hit the ceiling when the leadership is contaminated.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
3 months ago
Reply to  Stan Sylvester

Amen.. Never forget what they did to the churches!

Big Ruckus D
Big Ruckus D
3 months ago

1) Declare martial law.
2) use backdoors likely located within to shut down communications satellites and various Internet routing points to cripple the media as much as possible to minimize their ability for incitement. Expect work arounds will be found in short order, leaving a limited window to make an effective first strike.
3) shutdown CIA and FBI, begin roundups and summary executions of known bad actors (members of Congress, Intel agency heads and staff, well connected and funded subversives, etc.), see what unknown bad actors are drawn out into the daylight and then lather, rinse, repeat.

Will the above work to wrest control from the deep state? I’ve no idea, and have serious doubts. But what else has any chance of doing the job? At this stage, the two options are to capitulate and let the bad guys finish sewing up control of everything, or come out swinging with a maximum shock value move and hope the bad guys can be knocked back on their asses long enough to gain the upper hand. Assuming that can even be done, it then requires the testicular fortitude for follow through to do very unsavory things regarding the disposition of domestic enemies, and a whole lot of them, at that.

I don’t believe Trump has the stones for this. It would take a legit strong man, and none who fit the criteria have yet emerged, so far as I know. Also make note of the fact we don’t really know if Trump is even a good guy, or is compromised and just posing as one. The whole thing turns (or not) on the answer to that question of what exactly Trump is, and whether his stated objectives during the last campaign were truthful. There is a very slim chance his ego – and desire to cement a legacy – could drive him to try, but I’m not banking on it.

If the scenario above were to be activated and played out, civil war is assured (which it is eventually, regardless), as all those who benefit directly and otherwise from both the existence of, and the vast policy meddling of the deep state, will lash out upon the realization their meal ticket and the power that enabled their very existence is being dismantled. Consider the outrage over DOGE, and multiply it exponentially.

For those who would protest that the above would mark the end of America, you’re late to drawing that conclusion. The end was an accomplished fact quite some ways back. This stage of the game is not to save, or to restore some romanticized notion of one’s fabled homeland (that no longer exists) but to purge the cancer, and hopefully create conditions under which a functional society can once again take root. That is a real long shot, but the alternatives stemming from not trying are far worse still. There are no good options, and success is not assured. However, failing to take this poor option is a guaranteed loss. Either way, I don’t really expect to come out the other side. If I somehow do, it’ll be down to the grace of God, and incredible good fortune.

Troy Messer
Troy Messer
3 months ago
Reply to  Big Ruckus D

If it is either CWII or WWIII, I’ll take my chances with CWII. At least with CWII, I might be able to do something. I think there is a way Trump could succeed. Fly to Camp Pendleton or 29 Palms where ever is the highest concentration of US Marines. Speak to them face to face and tell them what the deal is. I think the Marines would follow. Then, if the deep state want to take on Trump, they’ll have to take on the Marine and any other dissidents that decide to take action.

Fido
Fido
3 months ago

Obama ordered troop withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan. The deep state refused.
Trump term one ordered the same. Same result.

Now the deep-state is openly conducting war with Russia. If the deep-state persists, we *will* have WWIII. If they are shut down, we *will* have CWII.

Take your pick. (if you think you can) I know which I’d prefer.

Randolph Scott
Randolph Scott
3 months ago
Reply to  Fido

CWII. Our house has needed cleaning for a long long time. It started when they assinated JFK.

Thirdworldfarmer
Thirdworldfarmer
3 months ago

Please explain who or whom is going to do this disbanding? If msm comms go down so will all the rest. May I remind my like minded friends that that will make everything as local as one’s front door step- with no means to verify what is going on
Average joes could make it happen, however, the removal of the perpetrators from urban areas with heavy police state equipment, will be a major bodycount

Hammers Thor
3 months ago

What would you do if you were the President and you came to the conclusion that you are nothing more than a figurehead? “
My regards to President Dunsel.

Fido
Fido
3 months ago
Reply to  Hammers Thor

Heh… that was from AI… but who knows, maybe the deep state *is* AI…
… maybe AI isn’t what they say… … but what a great reference! 😀

kal kal
kal kal
3 months ago

deep state, my answer is a faded and crumpled little card I got many years ago with advice from the Pleiku MIKE force…….. IYKYK.

kal kal
kal kal
3 months ago

David, According to Uke reports the drones were smuggled into Russia a year and a half ago along with human assets, so possibility it was greenlighted by the previous “whomever” administration, but same conclusion applies. Of course, the Uke sources also insist that US was aware of the operation, thus, same conclusion once more. Once the ML path is taken, who is to saw that other forces might not usurp that occasion and “not let it go to waste?” What if’s, the very thing we did for Rand.

The Southern Nationalist
The Southern Nationalist
3 months ago

First thing to do is fire Blondi Bondi and get a real AG with a backbone and guts, same goes for the FBI, get some real leadership in these departments and then make massive, I mean massive arrests to clean this filthy crowd out of power.
If Martial Law needs to be done those of us that have prepared can wait it out for a while.
Let’s get this thing done!