From the Comments Section:
“What direction do you, David,& TL think we need to move in??? Because i do get a certain vibe from what some of you are saying or posting (steering.)
Yet no one seems to give off a clear sense of direction.
Grabbing a Hammer that says kill the commies does not seem to be the solution we are to take.”
There you have it, that is the only solution. We need to use whatever means possible to rid ourselves of this evil that we face.
No One is Coming to Save Us!
Over and Over again in the Bible you see numerous examples where fighting evil is not only ok but often necessary.
It is no longer possible to live at peace with these people on the left. There is a time for war and there is a time for peace. We are not in a time for peace.
We are surrounded by lawlessness. When justice is done it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.
God says that God is not only a God of peace but He is a God of justice. Things should be done right.
A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free.
You can feel it, it’s coming, this evil has to be stopped. Nobody is going to do it for us.
However, not One Man can do this alone.
The time where we can win without bloodshed has passed. I personally do no want to wait until there is no hope of victory.
It’s bound to go hot. Ramp up your PT. You don’t have enough of anything so go get more. Dry fire daily. Every. Single. Day. The shit is coming. The learning curve goes vertical at that point. Start getting quiet. Don’t believe anything from the talking box. EDC right? BOB for the family? Cars never below 1/2 tank? Good as my witness, you better tighten up your shit. I can feel it scratching at my gut everyday. And now, when I sleep. Make up your mind what level of violence you are willing to invoke and practice it. Daily. Dry fire. Every. Damn. Day. God bless us all. Watch for me. I’ll be that gray bearded bastard who is desperately trying to make his body do the shit it used to in Beirut, 83-87. Just give me a few rounds of cover fire because I’ll be coming out from behind enemy lines. I love you all, my brothers and sisters. Stay well. Hold the course and fuck anyone in the way.
Why dry fire when you can fire?
’cause midnight and got an itch.
’cause night vision and got an itch.
Word
Sounds like someone I should meet !
1. I do not think anyone could argue against the fact that we are already in a cold civil war.
2. Pending an event to unify the country (war, terrorist attack or large natural catastrophe), the violence will escalate.
3. There is no voting our way out of this.
4. People need to prepare.
5. People need to keep their mouths shut.
1.How long have we been in this “cold war.” The war that matters, the spiritual war.
2.An event. What kind of catastrophe (event) would it take to unite Gods people? And why would He bring on and allow such an event, and who are the players?
3. agreed
4. spiritually first and foremost. Physically there is no way to prepare 100% for what is coming.
5. ??? The commies love it if they can just shut everybody up .
Not sure i agree, or know if this is even possible, but have ya seen or heard Glenn Beck talking about renewing the covenant with God? 1793
After my awakening i became aware that we should have the same faith belief , reliance upon God that the people had when they crossed the red sea, or when they were waiting in the room marked by His Blood as the angel of death passed by.
Very difficult yet this is the belief we need, He needs.
First of all, timing is essential and vastly more important than most people think. Second, you must think “I have but one life to give” and plan that act consciously and since we do not have the numbers on our side that knowledge requires that life to be spent with the utmost efficiency.
Due to some books I am working on I am reading a lot of books on the Indian Wars. Nothing will prove to someone the value of timing and the utility of efficiently spent lives like those battles. As late as it seems, it is still early.
Very good, and Jesus tells us this in the Gospels? Tells us to kill the commies and their families?
When it comes to killing and murdering who do you choose to quote?
And i am not speaking of God, nor David nor the past before the Gospels, Nor the man named “saints.” What was His example? The example that He has said to imitate?
“Some were wrought upon by the word, and others hardened; some received the light, and others shut their eyes against it. And the same has always been the effect of the gospel.”
Matthew Henry Commentary
28:23-31 Paul persuaded the Jews concerning Jesus. Some were wrought upon by the word, and others hardened; some received the light, and others shut their eyes against it. And the same has always been the effect of the gospel. Paul parted with them, observing that the Holy Ghost had well described their state. Let all that hear the gospel, and do not heed it, tremble at their doom; for who shall heal them, if God does not? The Jews had afterwards much reasoning among themselves. Many have great reasoning, who do not reason aright. They find fault with one another’s opinions, yet will not yield to truth. Nor will men’s reasoning among themselves convince them, without the grace of God to open their understandings. While we mourn on account of such despisers, we should rejoice that the salvation of God is sent to others, who will receive it; and if we are of that number, we should be thankful to Him who hath made us to differ. The apostle kept to his principle, to know and preach nothing but Christ and him crucified. Christians, when tempted from their main business, should bring themselves back with this question, What does this concern the Lord Jesus? What tendency has it to bring us to him, and to keep us walking in him? The apostle preached not himself, but Christ, and he was not ashamed of the gospel of Christ. Though Paul was placed in a very narrow opportunity for being useful, he was not disturbed in it. Though it was not a wide door that was opened to him, yet no man was suffered to shut it; and to many it was an effectual door, so that there were saints even in Nero’s household, Php 4:22. We learn also from Php 1:13, how God overruled Paul’s imprisonment for the furtherance of the gospel. And not the residents at Rome only, but all the church of Christ, to the present day, and in the most remote corner of the globe, have abundant reason to bless God, that during the most mature period of his Christian life and experience, he was detained a prisoner. It was from his prison, probably chained hand to hand to the soldier who kept him, that the apostle wrote the epistles to the Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Hebrews; epistles showing, perhaps more than any others, the Christian love with which his heart overflowed, and the Christian experience with which his soul was filled. The believer of the present time may have less of triumph, and less of heavenly joy, than the apostle, but every follower of the same Saviour, is equally sure of safety and peace at the last. Let us seek to live more and more in the love of the Saviour; to labour to glorify Him by every action of our lives; and we shall assuredly, by his strength, be among the number of those who now overcome our enemies; and by his free grace and mercy, be hereafter among the blessed company who shall sit with Him upon his throne, even as He also has overcome, and is sitting on his Father’s throne, at God’s right hand for evermore.
Acts 28:27 Commentaries
Many have this gut feeling, some describe it as eerie, creepy ( somethings about to happen.) Well several including myself have felt this, have spoken of this over the course of several years and years and years.
i suggest turning more back to God than to each other and one’s self. You will get past this feeling.
Many seem to have had plenty of time allotted to get over our anxiousness and our fear of each other and mankind in general.
How are you doing? Who do you in Truth fear?
I’m going to surprise a lot of people here.
You’re right.
If you look at the Gospel in it’s offensive sense, spreading it, letting it pierce us so that by accepting Christ and chasing Him we are filled with the Spirit and the death that the Law brought is put under our feet (Romans) then the thought of us killing people who have different political ideologies than ours indeed seems folly.
What we’re facing here is far more insidious and not the same.
When they demonize you, make your family into the scape goat for every of society’s ills, tell lies about you and finally come for your family, you need to use that sword that you sold your cloak to buy (Jesus said) Otherwise you are not being “crucified for Christ” you are being murdered for not drinking the Koolaid of Communism. Do you really believe The God of Moses and Aaron wants you to watch your family die for the cause of simply not being a Communist? And this glorifies God exactly how? To die for your faith as a martyr is powerful, but the word says “no greater love …. than he who will die for his FRIENDS”. Pacifism is NOT THE MESSAGE OF THE CROSS. Sacrificial love is.
This is how they will know you, by your love one for another. He is referring here to loving the people in your circle (hopefully full of believers) and being willing to give all to them.
The New and Old Testament seems very different in their tone. When I was in ministry school (I won’t say which one) one thing we were taught was that the God of Abraham is 100% the God of Paul.
Christ came that we could have a way to the Father that didn’t involve a huge list of rules. We are justified by faith, not of works (without going into Works and Gifts of the Spirit and their importance). Christ did not at all change the nature and wrath and justice of Yah.
He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
The God I serve would not have his child wait in self righteousness until evil men come to kill and destroy all who won’t bend a knee to the false god of progressivism. That is like the Jews in the ghettos did, loathe to take up a rifle or band together to push back. It got them gas chambers, and those deaths DID NOT GLORIFY GOD. Or Christian monks in parts of England when the Vikings came who simply stood and prayed for deliverance while their friends were burned alive or put to the sword and worse. Did not glorify God.
Or when the Muslim Ottoman Empire WAS DRIVEN BACK TO THE HOLE THEY CAME FROM by a Christian who history portrays as a demon….I believe that like Joshua before him, that this did glorify God.
Brother, I know this.
Dying in a ditch or field like dumb sheep being led to slaughter is not the message of Christ. There is a time and purpose for everything under Heaven, including war.
Continued…
We may just have to disagree Follower.
I don’t dislike you or hold against you your pacifistic view of Christ. May God not judge me harshly for my willingness to fight and defend my people unto death. May His Spirit go before me, killing my enemy like a mighty wind and may He bring my people victory this day.
“When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the Lord thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And it shall be, when ye are come nigh unto the battle, that the priest shall approach and speak unto the people, And shall say unto them, Hear, O Israel, ye approach this day unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not, and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them; For the Lord your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you. And the officers shall speak unto the people, saying, What man is there that hath built a new house, and hath not dedicated it? let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man dedicate it. And what man is he that hath planted a vineyard, and hath not yet eaten of it? let him also go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man eat of it. And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her. And the officers shall speak further unto the people, and they shall say, What man is there that is fearful and fainthearted? let him go and return unto his house, lest his brethren’s heart faint as well as his heart. And it shall be, when the officers have made an end of speaking unto the people, that they shall make captains of the armies to lead the people. When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.”
Deuteronomy 20:1-15 KJV
Yes it is ok if we disagree, and we can still discuss.
If Jesus were telling us to pick up our swords of destruction and kill the communist do you not think we as a group would find a little unification?
Do you see 10,000 of His saints prepared to go and kill the commies?
i believe the sword of Truth we are to take note of is His voice! His ultimate Truth! And yes many will not like it.
i have also asked before of no avail, How many of His Biblical disciples, Apostles, gathered war parties?
i still am not saying not to defend. So far we seem to be getting along? What is the hurry, what is the rush? Let things play out. If things would have simply proceeded naturally or more correct supernatural there may have not even been a “civil war.”
And no i do not believe there will not be a future war. man alone will not change
We have been told so many lies including the reasons of the “civil war” and so many of you think that repeating the past that seems largely based in lies is once again the way to go???
“This is how they will know you, by your love one for another. He is referring here to loving the people in your circle (hopefully full of believers) and being willing to give all to them.”
This one, i have seen before and repeatedly and is not the whole Truth.
Loving just those who love you, even the enemy is capable and does this.
Pray for your enemy, not that he dies, not that he fails to see his wrongs, pray for God’s will to be done! Pray that they too can be saved!You may be surprised at the outcome.
When the actual shooting begins think of how much harder it will be to change their minds.
And as TL also seems to agree, the timing is not ours. Let’s make the best use of it.
Consider the many passages of;
God’s people becoming set--apart from this world.
i have never considered myself a complete pacifist and will return fire if forced.
Right or wrong this is where i find myself.
“This is how they will know you, by your love one for another. He is referring here to loving the people in your circle (hopefully full of believers) and being willing to give all to them.”
This one, i have seen before and repeatedly and is not the whole Truth.
Loving just those who love you, even the enemy is capable and does this.“
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I didn’t say it was the whole truth, for the whole truth takes volumes.
It is A TRUTH spoken by Christ and he was indeed speaking of a group of friends.
If you were in military service and in a battle, is it your position that you would not fight that enemy but would pray for God’s will to be done? Why or why not?
A most excellent discussion by you two. I am warmed by the salty concern for the truth of the words of our book of instruction. There will always be those who will count the tears shed in the garden by our Messiah as mere piss of Christians.
i was in the military, was not in battle. And now seeing how so many of us are and were used by this world, it is difficult discussion.
There is much confusion in this. Have you ever seen “God’s blessed nations military” on shore in a foreign country (free time)? i believe many have much to answer for.
Here is what i will say, if you and i and our families were under attack in a house, Yes i will defend. We can pray that God’s will be done in all moments. We do not need to hate nor “harden our hearts, to defend, nor to lay our life down for another.
Hmmmmmm. Two Christians having a peeing contest over the bible! This conversation looks about as enlightened as two monkeys trying to mate with a football.. christianity needs to end!
“Rabbi”
You certainly have revealed yourself.
i do believe both lawless and myself were having a meaningful and without animosity discussion.
So what is it about that, that upset you?
Peeing contest! Sorry
This isn’t a pissing contest or an argument, @ Will and Thomas.
The fact is, every man counts and I don’t want to leave anyone behind who has reservations about what is coming.
I can stand on the road and say that the bus bearing down on me isn’t real, isn’t going to hit me or will turn off at the last moment…but the prudent thing is to move yourself long before the danger is close.
@Thomas specifically, those tears were the human anguish of God who knew what must be done but desired another way. If you think I regard those as some filth then by what of my words did you arrive at that?
@Will specifically, you are not the first to wish for its end and your ancestors if you are in fact descended from one of the 12 tribes, originated that wish.
It’s ok, on that day ALL will bow.
Forgive each other ‘daily’ as we ourselves desire and ask our Father to forgive us.
Do you see how bizarre that got?
I am sorry. I misplaced my reply. It should have been to Will. Again, the question you and follower wrestle with is as important as the Savior’s tears and not a peeing contest.
It is not a contest. i do not believe lawless or myself were competing? We were exchanging our points of view. Knee jerk reactions can sometimes come back and bite us, i too have been there.
Did we appear angry and lashing out at each other?
And where is Wes?
If you post an article, you should stick it out and engage in the discussion.
‘we’ this nation under God , “we patriots”, we the Remnant,
if we are, or are to be of these people, and we can not even speak to one another on line out of, and with Love, just what kind of mess are we all actually in?
lawless,
i would not mind continuing if you are also for it.
i would like to discuss God never changes, and
“Dying in a ditch or field like dumb sheep being led to slaughter is not the message of Christ. There is a time and purpose for everything under Heaven, including war.”
Do you think i am like the sheep you describe, or are my eyes and my ears actually open? is that the message you hear from me? Or have i said we are not to fear them!
Wes is on vacation enjoying his family