Major Consensus Is Forming: If Trump Openly Joins Netanyahu In War Against Iran, The MAGA Coalition Will Break In Two and The Trump Presidency Will Be A Total Failure
— Alexander Dugin (@AGDugin) June 17, 2025
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We voted for no more senseless wars.
Well, I admit, ALL WARS ARE SENSELESS.
However, sometimes you just have to take down the school yard bully, don’t you….. ??
So if we are going to once again send our blood and treasure into a maelstrom of destruction, it might be opportune for our No-More-Wars president to educate us as to why US involvement in the Israel-Iran Dustup is necessary. That “talk” should also clearly state the end-state our involvement is required to achieve.
Dugin, for all his baggage, is correct. Trump’s failure to educate and achieve support from the citizenry will shatter MAGA and will lead to a full scale revolution (as in a blood in the streets garden variety Commie revolution).
Yes. I voted for Trump, reluctantly, because others I respect urged me to do so. Last gasp chance to fix things at the ballot box. He claimed he could end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours and start no new wars. He could stop the Ukraine nonsense and the Palestinian genocide immediately. All he’d need do is stop the funding, the intel, and the weapons. He’s done none of that. He’s actually helped facilitate the attack on Iran opening yet another cluster f%$#.
His executive orders have been, for the most part, extraordinarily on point. The problem is that Congress will not codify them into law. That means the next president can simply issue orders waiving them, just like Biden did before.
So, if I was considered part of the Trump ‘base’, he’s lost me already. Anyone who wants an end to the foreign adventures and to actually make America great again has likely already rejected Trump, as well. He gets us into a shooting war with Iran and I suspect his presidency is finished and that the United States military will find that they are no longer the ‘greatest’ military on the planet.
This pretty well describes my point of view now, too. Further, Trump has repeatedly lost focus by being pulled too many directions at once, thereby not achieving real success in any one area of concern. This has almost certainly been by design, to stymie any chance at real progress, but he keeps falling for it, if he isn’t actively involved in it for the purpose of just putting on a show (and that remains a possibility).
Meanwhile, areas where he had slam dunk capability to take action (as with arresting CEOs, landlords and others harboring illegals under existing federal law, and similarly healthcare industry big shots for collusion and racketeering, which would break the back of the medical monopoly system that is economically killing us) have gone completely unutilized, instead favoring largely ineffectual and symbolic half measures that don’t solve the problem but pick at the edges enough to claim “hey, we’re trying”.
He also has had a number of high profile cabinet level appointees who came in with great fanfare, but now are bumbling along not really showing us much of anything (Bondi, Patel, Bongino). And then there are all the leftist Judges who haven’t been dealt with and continue to screw up the works. This is the same pattern of “spinning wheels in the mud” and defacto failure that marred his first term, and I fully expected a repeat of it in his second, so none of this really surprises me. It is, however,frustrating in the extreme to see opportunities squandered, and the lack of follow through because there is always a new big crisis to distract everyone from the last. And now they seem to come mere days apart, wave upon wave, ensuring no foothold can ever be established, and that the public at large can never keep it’s eye on the ball (which is intentional manipulation of the narrative).
This is the “look, squirrel” method of keeping everyone off balance and chasing a new problem with enough frequency that they fail to notice none of the previous crises have ever been resolved. Consider that in about two weeks time, we’ve had the DOVE/Musk fallout, the “big beautiful bill” that utterly failed to impose any semblance of fiscal restraint, riots in LA, use of NG and Marines to “quell” said riots (but not really) that itself created a brief constitutional crisis and another trip to court, “no kings” (a.k.a. no cogent thought among geriatric boomer leftists), attendant wrangling over deportations (which ostensibly caused the riots and no kings idiocy) and now a freshly escalated mess in the Middle East.
Oh, and Ukraine is still getting money and weapons from the US for no good reason (it won’t change the outcome) while Russia goes on kicking the crap out it (and recognizing Russian victory is now a mere formality, and has been for a least a few months already, yet this inevitable outcome keeps being stalled by Western powers who don’t want to acknowledge it). COVID shot injuries and deaths continue to go officially unrecognized and un(der) reported. The economy is still moribund in real terms for ordinary people who are struggling mightily to pay much inflated prices for so many goods and services like insurance premiums, which are up ~60%+ YOY in many cases. But what we really need to focus on is a pissing match between Iran and Israel, right?
absolutely Bob
i un-registered to vote last week and shall not vote again
at the level of DT, there’s a club, and we’re not in it… nor would we want to the kinds of things required for entrance into that club that Carlin warned us about
at DT’s level, virtually all are either:
thanks, DT, you s.o.b.
Just as the Deep State designed. If MAGA fails; it is on them. If they are that mentally weak; and easily manipulated; they had NO chance of being successful from their beginning. When a people become so stupid; that they can’t even live………they won’t. We are way, WAY, past the point of no return. Our society is in total collapse; like all societies before us; and for the same exact reasons. Your lives are over and your demise is Guaranteed. The question is; for the first time in human history; are we going to completely exterminate all those responsible; on our way out; or leave them alive to destroy the next society like we have during our entire history. What we are living through now; is the direct result of the previous society not doing what needed to be done. Are we going to doom the next society to the same? Why should they suffer; because of OUR cowardice, laziness; and self-centeredness?
YES
I have already decided that I will never vote GOP ever again. And I never vote Democrat so that leaves my vote totally independent. In these wars past I voted for the person but now I will only vote for the party of none
They lie, we have never got a single thing we voted for mostly freedom from government, they just continue to steal from us and I will not stand for it anymore
You’re ready for this essay (and you won’t thank me):
“The Most Dangerous Superstition.”
https://ia600600.us.archive.org/31/items/hybridphilosophy-collection/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-2011.pdf
Short take:
“The belief in “authority,” which includes all belief in “government,” is irrational and self- contradictory; it is contrary to civilization and morality, and constitutes the most dangerous, destructive superstition that has ever existed. Rather than being a force for order and justice, the belief in “authority” is the arch-enemy of humanity.”