On the Formation of a New Third Party

Should I beg the question and state that our two current political parties are both destroying our country? Elon Musk is at the forefront of this movement:

There currently are other political parties in the country but they have no traction, financing and cannot fight the requirements imposed on them by the Democrat and Republican parties in individual states to be placed on the ballot. Both parties collude to maintain the current system in order to steal our wealth, institute control over the people and manipulate our economy to keep us sick, poor and divided.

I know that the current system is flawed and that new legislation to fix this broken system will never be passed by those in “power”. I have to wonder why people still want to believe in these two political parties which have bankrupted the nation and are killing us.

David DeGerolamo

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Joe Blow
Joe Blow
1 month ago

You still think it’s possible to vote your way out of this problem.

Irod Folsom
Irod Folsom
1 month ago

The only thing that’s going to fix this problem is another flood!

thexrayboy
thexrayboy
1 month ago

The ONLY thing a “third party” will do is dilute the vote for GOP candidates thus guaranteeing that the communist/demonrat party will regain and retain power. We learned this lesson the hard way when Ross Perot siphoned votes away from Bush Sr. giving us Slick Willie the Arkansas Rapist….

Big Ruckus D
Big Ruckus D
1 month ago

Waste of time, effort and money. Not even someone with Elon’s money and influence can pull it off. The RNC and DNC are entrenched, have laws in every state more or less crippling the ability of an upstart party to elbow in on their action, and a third party will just be a splitter since the left will always vote Democrat because they are both stupid and crazy, and the Democrats give them (most) of what they want.

Therefore, a new party will only siphon significant votes from the Republicant’s. Not that I am saying we should continue to support repubs; they are worse than useless. Just saying the two existing parties have the game rigged from the inside, and so there is no way for a new party to get a real foothold. Look at all the other parties that have already been attempted, all are chronically marginalized, and have made no real inroads. The libertarians probably went the furthest in that regard, and their “market penetration” – even at the peak of their popularity – was still a complete joke. They were also overrun with a bunch of weirdos and pot heads, so were destined never to be taken seriously.

The only answer is to burn it all down. Including the laws and corporate scams that protect the two existing major parties from fair competition. That means burning down pretty well all existing state governments, as well as the federal govt. If you can get that far, the R and D parties will no longer be relevant.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
1 month ago
Reply to  Big Ruckus D

How do we burn it all down? What does burning it all down mean? A new party!

Patriot_One
Patriot_One
1 month ago

I heard the green new deal was dealt a death blow in the BBB. This could be the real reason Elon is so determined to undermine the Trump administration. No green new deal. no electric car mandates. No green mandates period. Instead of a third party like Ross Perot tried and failed, how about no parties? Are we so infantile we can’t weigh options on issues or are we too stupid and ignorant that we need an aristocracy to tell us what is best for us? I am not feeling the love for Elon. He is starting to sound like a creepy foreign usurper. Even though I don’t like how Trump danced on the graves of sovereign Iranians at the direction of Israel, Trump is the man we voted for and he is acting on some of the mandates. We just have to keep him focused.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
1 month ago

I am all in for another party. We have to upset the apple cart. We have to make a move. The one drawback about a new party is that AI must be controlled. The new BBB stated AI will not be tethered down for ten years. A new party run by AI billionaires only? Billionaires only would mean a private club and we ain’t in it.

A news blast on Hal Turner states Trump is firing Fed Chair Powell because the Fed built a 2.5 billion secret building. Sounds weird to me. Are we in some reality tv show? A new party? How will we protect ourselves? Lots to chew on. Everyday another distraction, another lump of crap on our plate.

And what about accountability of all those in leadership who got us into the position we are? We must remember that evil slithers everywhere! But we must make a move asap.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
1 month ago

Another thought.

Until you can say to yourself, honestly with an open mind: “What is it that I’m not seeing?” And then make an honest, ongoing effort to find and peel away your own cognitive dissonance layers, you’ll just keep insisting that someone else has to changeto fix all of this, when what has to change is YOU–you, me, and all of us in the aware community. That change involves waking up to the next layer (actually, “layers”–removing layers of cognitive dissonance implanted over decades of time). As long as we insist that we’re “wide awake” and “know what someone else has to do to fix this,” we’ll all keep being right, and control will keep accelerating. 

Lee Vail AKA Kalev Efrayim
Lee Vail AKA Kalev Efrayim
1 month ago

We don’t need a third party; we need a second Revolution.

Jane Tzilvelis
Jane Tzilvelis
1 month ago

Any suggestions where to begin that is practical?

Roth Harbard
1 month ago

So, what guarantee that the new party wouldn’t just be a reflection of the other two. Same lobbyists, same grift and greed temptation, etc. The Founders recommended no political parties. But, like most of the other protections they offered, we allowed this one to be ignored.

One of the other comments to this post suggests we burn it all down and start over. I agree. The only way out is through.

towasi
towasi
1 month ago

Solve a deeply spiritual problem in humans with even more man-centered solutions? Oh sure, this will work out just swell! Even a moderately studied theologian (aka a man who reads scripture somewhat regularly) can surely agree this wouldn’t work out so great. What has been ordained will come to pass. Try? Sure…just keep expectations purt-near zero.

Francis W. Porretto
Francis W. Porretto
1 month ago

I was deeply involved with a third party. There are many traps and pitfalls involved in building one.
At its inception, a third party is highly vulnerable to scam artists, power-seekers, and fringe loonies. Unless it grows with phenomenal speed, those vulnerabilities are guaranteed to ruin it. Look at the third parties of the postwar era. Only one — the Right to Life Party — has retained cohesion, focus, and immunity to the threats enumerated above. While the others have all become unimportant, the Right to Lifers have succeeded in bending the Republican Party toward right-to-life views.
The other minor parties have all succumbed to decay. The one that was originally most promising, the Libertarian Party, is now completely dominated by people you’d cross the street to avoid. I speak from experience here.

Nobody
Nobody
1 month ago

Voting. People still think it works? $5 trillion in new debt from the politician most of you wanted. The government must be destroyed. Minimal government, minimal corruption, minimal control over us.

peter paranzino
peter paranzino
1 month ago

Yes please….

Martha
Martha
1 month ago

Musk is a narcissist and just wants to put his name on yet another “brand.”