It is obvious with the insane spending of this bill, which increases the debt ceiling by a record FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS that we live in a one-party country – the PORKY PIG PARTY!!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 30, 2025
Time for a new political party that actually cares about the people.
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While I agree with Elon’s sentiment, the fact of the matter is if you divide the most dishonest, disgusting reprehensible group of people into 3 parties instead of 2, you still have a hive of traitors.
Europe has tried multi-party politics, its even MORE dysfunctional than our system.
I agree with all but his assertion that a new party is needed (on the supposition that it will fix what is wrong, because it won’t). It’s over. Now we just wait for the widespread recognition that’s it’s over, and for the cleansing fires to get stoked up. Maybe we get something better next go around (or not). But this current iteration is just too sclerotic and dysfunctional to survive.
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Worth a try. Nothing else appears in any way promising.
Elon is thinking and talking like a rational businessman. He is totally correct….our nation is heading for economic implosion due to rampant overspending.
Ok, the problem has been identified. Please note that Elon’s direct solution is to start a new political party.
Now let us consider that the DOGE Party is created and many join because they like the results Elon’s Pork-Busters, who brought results in a very short time. These citizens joining DOGE Party long for swift results and care not whose sacred cows get defunded. Great !
Where are those DOGE-ian supporters coming from as they migrate into Elon’s new political party ?? Will they come from the GOP or from the Donkeycrats or will they be from that one-fifth of citizens who just do not participate in elections/voting ??
Most will migrate from the GOP with a small sprinkling from the Donkeycrats, and we could see a group of non-participants arising magically energized to get involved in elections/voting by joining DOGE. But the GOP will still be in existance; weakened, but still able to fight DOGE.
Is everybody seeing it ? Are you seeing what Elon’s new third party is going to do when we have our next election ??
Right. Spot on. You scored a direct hit !
Yep, Elon’s DOGE Party will guarantee that the Donkeycrats seize power across the board. The GOP spendthrifts will be neutered but the Donkeycrats (DemonicRats, in actuality) will be the winners in a large majority of election contests. DOGE Party will win some seats and the GOP spendthrifts will also win some seats, but the majority will be won by the Donkeycrat-Demonics. When Congress reopens for a new session, their Party will control what bills even get put up for vote and they will rape and pillage America’s taxpayers with abandon, because their opposition are fighting with each other and are not united in purpose/methods/beliefs…..
This is why third parties have failed to gain prominence in our two centuries of elections. They just cannot and never have been able to grow fast enough to prevent the other party from re-asserting dominant control. Both establishment political parties see such “up-starts” as threats to their dominance and will do everything they can to each attack the new political threat. If you recall, this is what we saw in the second and third year of WoeBamaz usurpation when the Tea Party movement arose.
I am not trying to be a defeatist; only a realist who understands history and how these movements have played out over time.
If any of you readers can show how Elon’s DOGE-ians can become a dominant political party swiftly so as to keep the budget-busters out of office/from being elected, I am ready to be educated.
Lay out your ideas so we can all learn from you.
good analysis of the actual effects
In 1992 H. Ross Perot ran for President with Stockdale as his running mate. It sounded good to have someone who was not a D or an R run but what he did was split the Republican vote and got ole Billy Bob Clinton elected.
Mr. Musk would do well to remember this.
so, is Elon right about the BBB?
but Tillis is wrong for opposing the BBB?
or is Tillis wrong for other reasons?
what about Massie?
Trump?
who’s in, who’s out, in “our group”?
Would everybody in Congress just STFU and pass no Medicaid for wetbacks and make firearms suppressors, SBRs, and SBSs not subject to the 1934 Firearms Act?!
$5 Trillion Debt Ceiling Increase
The bill would increase the U.S. debt ceiling by $5 trillion. This provision is one of the most pressing items in the bill as the Treasury approaches a default sometime in the coming months.
Paul and House conservatives have been outspoken in their opposition to such a steep increase in the debt limit.
I’m really pretty schizophrenic about Elon Musk. I agree that there should be far more cuts. However, Elon indicated he would find $2 trillion in just the first year, then revised that down to $1 trillion, and then it came in at $150 billion.
The cuts are actual money, the OBBB is counting on growth and “future” money… soothsaying, although a reasonable strategy, considering that it’s the ONLY thing that can possibly save us. We simply CAN NOT cut enough to get out of the fiscal emergency we are in, so we MUST “grow our way out of this”. The problem is we’ve already heard this before, and look where we are.
A third party will do nothing except guarantee the demoncrats a lock on power for all time. Remember Ross Perot? This, to me, sounds like a liberal having a temper tantrum. I truly at one point thought that a third party was a good idea, but not anymore. I find it much more appealing to take control of the Republican party and fill it with MAGA Republicans.
It doesn’t matter if we are all dead, fried to ash from multiple mushroom clouds.
Didn’t you hear about the FATWA the Ayatollah Corolla issued yesterday calling for a worldwide Shiite/Islamic holy war against all westerners and a hit contract on the Don. Alex Jones was yammering on and on about it.
It’s on boys a girls. And here we dance about on the Senate Floor. Sounds like a delay tactic to me. If we go to war the BBB becomes WWW. That 5 trillion will be chump change.
jihad was called for on America by islamists living in the US and the assassination of the president by an Al Queda leader two weeks ago almost.
American Party?