we will NOT survive this.

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tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago

Well just what is our solution? Vote harder, protest in the streets, contact our uni-party representatives? In my opinion not one of those will change what is happening, we are at the precipice of extinction, they say we cannot win a war against the military, I say BS, if 1,000 men killed one combatant each, that would be 365,000 dead enemy’s in one year, no standing army could sustain that type of loss, if it were 10,000 well, game over. h/t wrsa.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

I don’t suppose they’d not show up with a pair of armored vehicles and a flamethrower to reduce the “Terrorists” compound to smoke and ashes, eh?

Or turn off the electricity to problem zone 2A and tell your neighbors to turn you in before the grid power comes back? Or Food deliveries or…

Or even MORE Likely as we are so divided that the “Rifle behind every blade of grass” is shooting each other?

Like to fighting roosters even the “Winner” is often bleeding to death. Might be the goal, eh?

Two way shooting range, Sir. It’s not paper targets, it’s not little brown people OVER THERE getting blasted under rules of engagement.

Personally, I think the Chinese owned politicians are keeping the Ukraine Proxy War going to weaken the US and Russia. That way they are just prepping the battlespace so they can flee once it gets full on sporty. And then the Chinese simply wait a year or so until all of our lights go out.

Little do they realize the Chinese have a historical habit of killing “Useful Idiots” when they are done with them.

A couple of years means little to Chinese. In Vietnam they simply outlasted us over 20 years.

Protect your family. Bosnia is coming to visit.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

I agree about the weakening of the military, but as far as the fight that is a different story. There are more people in line with those views of resistance than you know. I cannot and will not be deterred by how big and bad our enemy is, they can and will be defeated, period. Even at my age, I put a big bad ass on the ground, out weighed me by at least a hundred pounds just six months ago. We have more than a dozen militias just in my little town, ready and willing to go. No more defense, time is coming for an offense, as far as Bosnia, bring it.

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Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Folks, let’s talk about pride (a sin by God’s standards)

And Operational Security also known as OPSEC.

And a truism about guerilla’s

Mao famously observed that a guerrilla swims among the people like a fish swims in the sea. Without the support of the people the guerrilla is a fish out of water, “it cannot survive” (Tse-Tung, 1961, p. 93).

Support often equals concealment. Lack of betrayal to gov forces.

Mao is describing what other guerrilla leadership has found true over the centuries. Even in the American Revolution quiet and serious people met in Private to discuss plans.

They didn’t do them in smokey bars and internet hangouts. like NC Renegades.

tom finley
 15 hours ago
 Reply to Michael
I agree about the weakening of the military, but as far as the fight that is a different story. There are more people in line with those views of resistance than you know. I cannot and will not be deterred by how big and bad our enemy is, they can and will be defeated, period. Even at my age, I put a big bad ass on the ground, out weighed me by at least a hundred pounds just six months ago. We have more than a dozen militias just in my little town, ready and willing to go. No more defense, time is coming for an offense, as far as Bosnia, bring it.

Last edited 15 hours ago by tom finley

So, how many folks notice a distinct lack of OPSEC and Pride here?

I wupped Cornpop, eh?

This comment was said in a PUBLIC Social Media Board, aka NC Renegades. If you think the Feds don’t monitor and post here to incite folks, your sadly mistaken.

If you’re under the illusion that Feds cannot find you on the internet with your clever internet packages you don’t understand that the internet was DEVELOPED by the 3 letter agencies and even today, they OWN or a partnership with every supercomputer on earth.

If they are interested in you, your KNOWN before end of shift.

If Mr. Finley (or whatever name he really is) hasn’t brought great attention to HIS many militia’s then maybe we need to all buy lottery tickets. It’s OUR LUCKY DAY.

A fact of life, if your “Group” has meetings then you already have a Fed or a weak pride filled Fed asset there.

Protect your families. Don’t beat your chest on the internet. Maybe if enough Cornpop destroyers brag hard enough the Feds will ignore you.

But I’d not bet the family on that.

BTW ever notice Ray Epps a well known “Proud Boy” at the Jan 6th event STILL isn’t arrested?

Food for thought eh?

DRenegade
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Valid points that all should be strongly considering. Operational security and Information gathering sources to make intelligence should already be implemented and appropriately staffed. If you look at my articles, the majority are giving information with little to no opinion. Notice how few comments my articles receive: take the information, analyze and plan accordingly. The only comments to be added should be confirmation and updates.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  DRenegade

I hear you DRenegade, OPSEC is something you do well.

The 3 “S”‘s don’t include internet bragging I notice.

Protect your family.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

I guess my still being free is causing you some angst, have you initiated charges yet?

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

LOL, playing the victim card?

You know your safe. I also am pretty sure the many militia you’ve bragged about :
We have more than a dozen militias just in my little town, ready and willing to go. No more defense, time is coming for an offense, as far as Bosnia, bring it.

Are not as amused that you’re bragging on an open channel about them.

There’s a country saying:

Don’t bring the family trouble.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

They are openly stating what they believe and they do this on open channels. As to I know I am safe, is this your guarantee of safety? No victim here, more assumptions I see.

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tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

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yes,it is time
yes,it is time
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“I don’t suppose they’d not show up with a pair of armored vehicles and a flamethrower to reduce the “Terrorists” compound to smoke and ashes, eh?”
An imaginative 15 year old with a penchant for physics/chemistry could accommodate that situation. How difficult is it to rig a flame-throwing drone? Those run-flats on APC’s won’t run if they are burned!

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  yes,it is time

Friend, I didn’t say we’d stop fighting but I’m pretty sure even a kamikaze drone with napalm will not do a lot to a run flat. They are built for that.

I’ve seen them drive and fight with tires aflame in the sand box. IED’s were not always simple explosives. Often flame weapons.

Yes, after they return to base, they needed new tires and that’s a logistical problem hard to defeat more than once or twice.

Betrayal is the weakness of a guerilla force. A lot of our “good neighbors” seems eager to be COVID police, eh?

Please remember that the Military didn’t operate that Tank at Waco. They were forced to turn one over to ATF and they misused it to crush buildings.

Historically speaking I doubt that General Sherman had too much trouble getting soldiers to run his burn everything March to the Sea.

Much trouble coming, protect your families.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.”

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Fighting without the blessings of God is futile.

What’s your take on Revelation 17
Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

yes,it is time
yes,it is time
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Or turn off the electricity to problem zone 2A and tell your neighbors to turn you in before the grid power comes back? Or Food deliveries or…”
Well, they would have to power down entire counties in some states. By now, every armed american knows if his/her neighbors are solid or not.
If the electrons stop flowing, the guerilla war will start growing.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  yes,it is time

You bet, yes,it is time the guerilla war is coming

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Psalm forty-six it is the supreme Bible treatment against fear.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

An excellent psalm for a righteous God fearing country.

Not sure we qualify. Otherwise, God owes and apology to Sodom. And God doesn’t change nor make mistakes.

1 Corinthians 1:25
New International Version
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

You have not learned anything eh, in divine metaphysics God never does anything to us, or for us, but always through us.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Still waiting for your take on the Whore of Babylon from Revelation 17

You seem well informed and opinionated. Please help us simple folks understand the Whore thing.

Yes, it does apply in this thread, sir. As does God’s Judgement against Judah in Isiaha

DRenegade
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

Tom, I will respectively disagree. God does punish us severely for our transgressions as outlined in the Old Testament. He provided manna from Heaven for His people.

tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  DRenegade

Well and through his people God showed his mercy and love, and through other people God punished his people, then do we agree, I am not trying to stir up contention here David.

Snotty Boy
Snotty Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

For me it has always been about protecting/defending family and tribe.
Restoring the Republic? At this point that is a fool’s errand. Too many ‘Muricans want to be controlled from the cradle to the grave.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Snotty Boy

It seems that when the chaos and devastation starts, men should form up with other men and go from there, in terms of forging alliances with regard to establishing living areas and the interactions needed for promoting long-term locales for work and commerce. Instead of letting a crisis go to waste and only focusing on fighting and warring, have a social outreach as well, that encompasses the economic aspects also (that way there are two active fronts). That’s what the Muslims do, and they’re quite successful in this methodology, such as in Palestine. The American ideal is passe.

Phil
Phil
2 years ago
Reply to  tom finley

the military is self-destructing itself and they are many internal struggles taking place right now. Every join chief of staff is a chi-com commie spy on the take and basically all of them are woke and pro sodomite and transgender. This same group of clowns that have been warring against the Christian whites as well as God for the last 20 years, so in my calculation their time is almost up. Our Lord has removed his spiritual protection over these perverts who run the armed forces. there pro satanism and debauchery is in the stratosphere and reaching all new heights of mental illness. the next war these freaks get our nation into they will be severely beating down, and rightfully so. it’s become an armed force of freaks, miscreants, and every un-clean bird.

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tom finley
tom finley
2 years ago
Reply to  Phil

Your right Phil, an army of satanist worshipers

Bob
Bob
2 years ago

If Musk is correct, the best thing we can do is encourage young Christians to marry and be fruitful and multiply. From a tax perspective institute reduced taxes for every child born even to the point of zero taxes if you have enough kids and stay married.

yes,it is time
yes,it is time
2 years ago

Oh, the population will spike when the invading MENA musliims and spics and haitian niggas get their rape on.
I can see it now! An entire nation of disarmed mocha colored workers happy to comply with whatever BS mandate comes their way!

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  yes,it is time

It now seems like one of the agendas of the Covid-19 theatre of operations was and is to ensure that any babies born going into the future are DNA-altered/mutated. The race of the individuals is really irrelevant to the powers that be, and so is having workers, this being evident with the worldwide vaccine push. They want to ensure that the image of Christ does not come through with any future birthrates. The infrastructure will be effectively demolished, and hence they wanted to inject these mutagenic substances now in implementing that, and to weaken the people before going to war.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago

America has a residual sex problem since before the Sexual Revolution, that went unaddressed, but merely was acted out on in sexual liberation which has led to a hatred of and by both sexes towards the other, and the loathing of one’s gender, now often seeking to be another. How many can be comfortable in a marriage, thrice, four, and five times or more, married? Is it real? The population decline has three or so real, immediate reasons; satanism, and a lack of understanding as to how it operates in undermining cultural norms, and men themselves, those largely uncultivated beasts in the field by virtue of other men that wouldn’t police their own (provide a group culture for other men, and an environment for them to learn), such as in allowing them to get a woman pregnant out of wedlock, who then often attempt or use coercion to sway her to get an abortion, not paying child support and/or in responsibly helping accordingly. Thirdly, a systemic lack of incentive or determination in ensuring a system of wages that kept pace with suitable quality of living conditions, and cost of living increases.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago

America already decided to give its national stock away to the Chinese and other races on many fronts (re: the birthrates). No country in history has been able to replenish their birthrates once they get below replacement rate. Sayonara and c’est la vie.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

Z-La then how could you account for the MANY times the Chosen People fell into slavery and returned to God’s blessings?

2 Chronicles 7:14
King James Version
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

James 4:8
New King James Version
8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Ephesians 6:12
King James Version
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Remember for a Christian this earth isn’t our home.

Snotty Boy
Snotty Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Remember for a Christian this earth isn’t our home.”
What a cop-out. This earth IS our home while we are alive and living in it.
That drivel is one of the reasons “Churchianity” is useless in the fight against the evil in this world. Too many churchy people waiting for the “great evacuation” by spaceship Jesus to be of an ounce of use in this world.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Snotty Boy

We will pass soon enough Snotty Boy. Then your home.

I hope you’ve made your peace with God, because He doesn’t grade on a curve. It’s pass or fail and works without faith is death.

We are called to know his word, be biblically literate and not accept man’s warped version of His plan.

Jesus isn’t a wimpy dude, he made himself a whip from the cords of the temple and drove out and destroyed the moneychangers.

Bible is full of people who prayed before battle and won for the glory of God. David might be one of them, eh?

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Z-La then how could you account for the MANY times the Chosen People fell into slavery and returned to God’s blessings?”

Were those chosen people small groups, scattered individuals or entire countries (or did they become such, and in what instances)?

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

Does it matter? If you accept that God is in control and HIS Plans are not going to fail, what’s your question?

Satan was granted dominion over this earth for a time. Then in the final battle Satan and his host will be tossed into hell.

Pride was Satan’s grave sin, he thought he could BE GOD.

Pride is often the root cause of human sin. Pride goes before a fall, heard that one?

Protect your family and trusted friends. The Bible speaks of running into the mountains and hiding. Wonder why?

Look it up.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Does it matter? If you accept that God is in control and HIS Plans are not going to fail, what’s your question?”

It matters because the context was the rise and fall of nations in relation to birthrates. Yes, some individuals and nations have repented of their sins and thereby have been blessed, but did they overcome declining population rates to regain their country, and among the chosen? Additionally, His plans are often in conjunction with action-oriented engagement.

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

So does it come down to : What time is it?
Restoration or consequences?
Even those who ‘truly’ repent still need to face consequences. Does the evidence of every day life show us a repentant peoples?
Are we privately giving Him praise and our gratitude? The world does not seem to be.
we are being shown and steered towards ,fear, pride, competition (in His name), hatred, and a non forgiving world. Law and “Loyalty” is what the world is demanding and the people (many) will praise this concept.

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Michael
Michael
2 years ago

God is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Even in the nuking of Sodom God made provision for the few righteous living there. BUT THEY HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOME AND GOODS. No electronic banking and credit cards. Lot’s family wealth was left behind to be burned along with Sodom.

No staying there amid your wealth and the sins abounding all about you.

When Isaiah gave God’s message against Judah condemning them for living in sin and offence.

There was a set aside for those that served God: SNIP Read the Whole chapter please:

Isaiah 3
8 Jerusalem staggers,
  Judah is falling;
their words and deeds are against the Lord,
  defying his glorious presence.
9 The look on their faces testifies against them;
  they parade their sin like Sodom;
  they do not hide it.
Woe to them!
  They have brought disaster upon themselves.

10 Tell the righteous it will be well with them,
  for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds.
11 Woe to the wicked!
  Disaster is upon them!
They will be paid back
  for what their hands have done.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago

Firstly, this was and continues to be a willful condition and set of circumstances, beyond apathy, having systematically entrenched a disdain of the people for many of their own and this is increasing. Birth rates is one example. How did men learn to hate their own offspring and descendants, and family line, to the extent they prolifically ask their girlfriends and wives to abort their babies? Why are those women so willing to do it? There are many single women who get pregnant in order to abort, feeling a sense of power over the man and his or her family members in doing so. Others abort to take aim at pro-lifers. Where were the real men and so-called patriots that allowed the babies of their nation to be murdered in the womb, because another male doesn’t want to take responsibility? Why were decades upon decades tolerated of unwed mothers receiving government assistance and housing because men don’t understand manhood? This was deliberated and perpetuated on women by government, a myriad of institutions, entire systems to build and edify themselves, as incapable, deficient and willfully ignorant Christians allowed it to happen, touting among other things, submitting to political authorities in dealing with such things, and the all but spoken doctrine of not being a mover and a shaker; i.e., a tenet that all direct action in the social and political arenas is for those in positions of authority, and otherwise acted upon is perhaps something rebellious or quarrelsome for churchgoers to consider intervening in. These largely pathetic, incapable, and helpless people (essentially socially defunct, from institutional hegemony) have contributed to the decline and collapse of the nation and they continue on this trajectory.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

This seems to be over-spiritualizing (perhaps vainly tossing about Bible verses) rather than being conversational in relation to them? Also there weren’t specifics given as to the application with regards to the current national situation.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

Z-La perhaps you misunderstand God’s timelines.

You ask about specifics for the CURRENT TIMELINE?

God had the Hebrews wandering in the desert living from manna dropped 6 days a week (they got double so they didn’t gather on the Sabbith) from Egypt to what is now Israel for 40 years. Why? It was only about 431 miles from Cairo to Jerusalem.

I suspect it was so the Hebrews that got some bad habits about worshipping false Gods would die off and be replaced by Hebrews who were born under the discipline of the desert and dependent on God for food, water and guidance.

The Hebrews after winning their homeland in Judah started acting up about false gods again. They spent 70 years in captivity to the Babylonians before God brought them back to their promised lands.

God’s timeline and ours are far more different than a child demanding a cookie and wailing that Mom is being stubborn saying NO, it’s almost supper time.

Does that help Z-La?

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

we are in judgement. (my opinion.) He is separating the wheat and the chaff.
i think many of us are seeing this and are in agreement.
Thinking we deserve this, we deserve that. now, not later. we are victims?
we are on His timeline. His timing, regardless of what we want.
He knows what we need. even before we ask. i have learned to take great comfort in this fact.
Mathew 6:8- 32
1 John 5:14

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Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

There are religious elements (individuals, denominations, teachings), and there may be many, that believe this is a doctrine that’s been evolving to do with the wheat and tares and that there was and is no need to do anything about evil, no mandate to build any type of workable culture, or implement any self-sustaining economics framework for their own people group, as though everyone either fizzles out or thrives where they are (this also largely describes the philosophy of corporate capitalism), and that’s how the country goes out…until a certain set of crises and upheavals, namely, those culminating in the pretribulation rapture, that takes them away from these circumstances, as is espoused, and thereby proves their point that they didn’t have to do anything, and they were right and thereby were peacemakers in not advocating as change agents, but rather relying on established religious authorities to determine trajectories even as decline was evident all around them. This was and is their beacon, their crutch, their ‘shining glory’ so to speak. This seems to have lent itself to a lack of natural affection. Hence, this would still likely, would it not, perhaps lead to another escapism per se, even if and when in another wilderness? Another wasted opportunity in a manner of speaking.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

Sigh, sorry I brought it up.

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Why? Do you think another wilderness would be all about holiness and a return to righteousness, or might you have considered there would be another division, that there’s still time and contexts involved? Or perhaps you think the next wilderness is the final one, as regards devastation? Do you deny the above is taught as a matter of religious teachings?

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

 “and that there was and is no need to do anything about evil,”
This not where i am coming from. Nor do i think this is where Michael is coming from.

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Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago

That was clearly not the implication and was qualified by the use of the word ‘their’ and repeatedly (and was rather referring to some approaches of and to the wheat and the tares or ‘live and let live’). However, the point is to be made of why many Christians would consider themselves so much better positioned to govern in a wilderness, than in a country they tout to a large degree as being theirs (a posited Christian nation). What will it take for them to start familiarizing themselves with the teachings and inculcation applicable to such governance? Are they unable to learn, teach, and effectively be change agents in these respects because of the institutionalized church system? Is this country not a wilderness of sorts? These are questions that were being addressed.

Michael
Michael
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

Z-La congrats, you’re the first person I’ve met this year that can drown me in sheer word volume and never stay anywhere near the subject at hand.

I attempted to let you know what little I have realized about Gods Timeframe as you were asking about what to do in this time frame.

You blew down some other odd rabbit hole. Nothing about your reply addressed timeframes.

Follower keeps trying to point out that America is under Gods Judgment, and you continue to chase after even another rabbit hole about Christians living in the wilderness or something.

God’s word clearly speaks of living outside the world. Many times, in the Bible folks who obeyed God had to leave their cities (Sodom etc.).

Z-La
Z-La
2 years ago
Reply to  Michael

“Nothing about your reply addressed timeframes.”

Are you sure? It sounds like you only want to focus on an immediacy with regards to your perspective of a timeline pertaining to unfolding events, or soon to unfold judgment re: active judgment, i.e., get ready to leave all wealth and belongings. I was perhaps focusing on troubles, commotions and probably what is partially resultant in the great falling away.

“God’s Prophetic Timeline”

“Time lines are a tool to help understand events (past, present and future). Humanity is subject (in this life) to the limits of time. God is infinite, without beginning or end, and He is not constrained by time, so His message to us (the Bible) includes both history (what has already happened) and prophecy (what will happen).”

https://gracekent.org/content.cfm?id=9028

a follower, working on it.
a follower, working on it.
2 years ago
Reply to  Z-La

The wilderness is not a spot to govern. At least to me (my understanding) It is a place of chastisement. i believe there is a reckoning coming. i believe evil will be raised up against evil, for the most part. at least upon the world stage. Many both good and evil will be caught up into these conflicts as always, yet i believe good will be hood winked and tricked into climbing on board. also believe some on the side of good will be called to a defense type posture. i do not see taking on the NWO head to head, straight on and “winning.”
No i do not believe good will be called to wipe out all evil so to speak. evil will destroy itself in a big way. Yahuah is in control of all.